A Holy War

battlepancho

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One aspect that i felt was missing from civilization was the ability to launch a official crusade, that is, a holy war from your religion specifically towards another. Keep in mind ive only been playing BTS soo far, dont know about warlords.

Realism: Crusades have obviously occured and so do tensions between religions, so going on a crusade would be realistic in a real life to civ sense. I understand that civ doesnt always wanna implement anything that is too touchy or offensive like having ethnic cleansing or able to do a holocaust but a "crusade" i would find would not be so politically incorrect or offensive since it can come from from any religion to any other.

Concept: The bonus of achieving a holy crusade against another civ would not be a combat bonus since I think that would start to mess around combat too much and maybe tilt the game balance out of whack but instead give all your cities bearing your state religion +2 :). The advantage is that you could wage a war longer before war weariness would take its toll, and since usually during the times of theocracy in the game your army movement is generally 1 or 2 :move: every turn in enemy lands... Taking cities or countries takes longer, so this would enable you to maybe gain a few more turns to finish your business.

Applying: To achieve a "holy war" you must have whatever religion has state religion and have your entire country be at least 80% converted to it. Once you do you can ask your special religion building "Confucius academy In example" if you could receive blessing to wage war. If you have an allied nation in battle who also received blessing then maybe it would give you a +3 :) bonus?

Though the method and concept can be tinkered around i think the whole idea of promoting a holy war is rather awesome and as well not be outlandish to gameplay.
 
You actually can declare a holy war if you build the Apostolic Palace and are elected its head. It's a good way to get allies for your own personal vendettas against powers of another faith. When you don't have the Palace, it can get extremely annoying (since the only way to avoid the war is to vote "Never!," and that gets you serious rep hits and :mad: in your civ). In all, the developers chose to analyze holy war as a function of power politics. And to tell the truth, at the end of the day, that's basically true: the Crusades were a ploy by the Byzantine Empire to take back territory from the Turkish warlords who had been eating away at Anatolia for centuries (plus the Western Europeans wanted spices, silks, etc.); most of the "Jihads" declared by the Ottoman Emperors were mere landgrabs; etc.
 
In all, the developers chose to analyze holy war as a function of power politics. And to tell the truth, at the end of the day, that's basically true: the Crusades were a ploy by the Byzantine Empire to take back territory from the Turkish warlords who had been eating away at Anatolia for centuries (plus the Western Europeans wanted spices, silks, etc.); most of the "Jihads" declared by the Ottoman Emperors were mere landgrabs; etc.

Basically that would mean that chiefs used religion as a pretext to invade and conquer. Why need a pretext? To make the people follow you. You have to use the people faith or whatever to motivate them. Not really sure if this is really necessary. After all societies are made so that there's a ruler and people must follow him. Not to speak about military hierarchy. (with hard sanctions -like death- in case of disobedience) So why need people approval? Not to be overthrown? Probably. There's also a part of the own rulers beliefs i believe.
 
I think a holy war would be a great idea, with a lot of possible concepts. Or how about a cultural war where you can actually spread your civ's culture (eastern, western, ect)?
 
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