A quote for each advance: Help me out

MikeLynch

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Inspired by Civ4's quotations for each tech advance, I decided to work in quotations for Civ2's advances in my next Test of Time mod. I'll probably just toss these in at the beginning of each Civilopedia entry, or perhaps at the end, since AFAIK there is no way to duplicate the thing in Civ4 where the quote is on the popup screen when you discover the tech.

My full list of advances (including some of my custom advances) is pasted below; the advances with no quote under them are those for which I haven't yet been able to come up with anything. I am open to suggestions, both for the advances I don't have quotes for and for those that I do, a lot of which are taken right from Civ4. Others I dug up and found to be perfect fits, others are so-so fits, while some others are just slightly goofy; fair warning.

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Advanced Flight
"I think it is well also for the man in the street to realize that there is no power on earth that can protect him from being bombed." Stanley Baldwin

Alphabet
"Words have the power to both destroy and heal. When words are both true and kind, they can change our world." The Buddha

Amphibious Warfare
"Rapidity is the essence of war: take advantage of the enemy's unreadiness, make your way by unexpected routes, and attack unguarded spots." Sun Tzu

Astronomy
"Astronomy compels the soul to look upwards and leads us from this world to another." Plato

Atomic Theory
"I ask you to look both ways. For the road to a knowledge of the stars leads through the atom; and important knowledge of the atom has been reached through the stars." Sir Arthur Eddington

Automobile
"Everything in life is somewhere else, and you get there in a car." E. B. White

Banking
"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies." Thomas Jefferson

Bridge Building
"How well Horatius kept the bridge in the brave days of old." Lord Macaulay

Bronze Working
"It is entirely seemly for a young man killed in battle to lie mangled by the bronze spear. In his death all things appear fair." Homer

Ceremonial Burial
"It's no accident that the church and the graveyard stand side by side. The city of the dead sleeps encircled by the city of the living." Diane Frolov and Andrew Schneider

Chemistry
"Chemistry means the difference between poverty and starvation and the abundant life." Robert Brent

Chivalry
"I too shall lie in the dust when I am dead, but now let me win noble renown." Homer

Code of Laws
"All men are born equal, but they cannot continue in this equality. Society makes them lose it, and they recover it only by the protection of the law." Charles de Montesquieu

Combined Arms

Combustion

Communism
"Communism is like prohibition, it's a good idea but it won't work." Will Rogers

Computers
"Never trust a computer you can't throw out a window." Steve Wozniak

Conscription

Construction
"And on the pedestal these words appear: 'My name is Ozymandias, king of kings; Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!' Nothing beside remains." Percy Bysshe Shelley

Corporation
"Corporation, n. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility." Ambrose Bierce

Currency
"Money can be exchanged for goods and services!" Homer Simpson

Democracy
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." Thomas Jefferson

Economics
"Compound interest is the most powerful force in the universe." Albert Einstein

Electricity
"We will make electricity so cheap that only the rich will burn candles." Thomas Edison

Electronics

Engineering
"A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." Antoine de Saint-Exupry

Environmentalism
"We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children." Native American Song

Espionage
"All warfare is based on deception. There is no place where espionage is not used." Sun Tzu

Explosives

Feudalism
"I will to my lord be true and faithful, and love all which he loves and shun all which he shuns." Anglo Saxon Oath of Fealty

Flight
"For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Leonardo da Vinci

Theocracy
"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics." Robert A. Heinlein

Fusion Power
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Arthur C. Clarke

Genetic Engineering
"Soon it will be a sin for parents to have a child which carries the heavy burden of genetic disease." Bob Edwards

Guerrilla Warfare
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy

Gunpowder
"You can get more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word." Al Capone

Horseback Riding
"If you speak the truth, have a foot in the stirrup." Turkish proverb

Industrialization
"There is one rule for the industrialist and that is: Make the best quality of goods possible at the lowest cost possible, paying the highest wages possible." Henry Ford

Invention
"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk." Thomas Edison

Iron Working
"And I wish that I were not part of this generation of men, but had died before it came, or been born afterward. For here now is the age of iron." Hesiod

Labor Union
"The argument for liberty is not an argument against organization, which is one of the most powerful tools human reason can employ, but an argument against all exclusive, privileged, monopolistic organization, against the use of coercion to prevent others from doing better." Friedrich August von Hayek

Laser

Leadership
"The enlightened ruler lays his plans well ahead; the good general cultivates his resources." Sun Tzu

Literacy,
"Some books are to be tasted, others to be swallowed, and some few to be chewed and digested." Sir Francis Bacon

Machine Tools
"Deus ex machina." Menander

Magnetism
"The wisest men follow their own direction." Euripides

Map Making

Masonry
"It is from their foes, not their friends, that cities learn the lesson of building high walls." Aristophanes

Mass Production
"People can have the Model T in any color - so long as it's black." Henry Ford

Mathematics
"Mathematics, rightly viewed, possesses not only truth, but supreme beauty - a beauty cold and austere, like that of sculpture." Bertrand Russell

Medicine
"As to diseases make a habit of two things - to help, or at least, to do no harm." Hippocrates

Metallurgy
"The only winner in the War of 1812 was Tchaikovsky." Solomon Short

Miniaturization

Mobile Warfare

Monarchy
"A multitude of rulers is not a good thing. Let there be one ruler, one king." Herodotus

Monotheism
"I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt have no other gods before Me." The Bible, Exodus

Mysticism
"A superstition is a premature explanation that overstays its time." George Iles

Navigation
"And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by." John Masefield

Nuclear Fission
"If the radiance of a thousand suns were to burst at once into the sky, that would be like the splendor of the Mighty One... I am become Death, Destroyer of Worlds." J. Robert Oppenheimer, quoting the Bhagavad Gita

Nuclear Power
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Arthur C. Clarke

Philosophy
"Philosophy is a battle against the bewitchment of our intelligence by means of language." Ludwig Wittgenstein

Physics
"All science is either physics or stamp collecting." Ernest Rutherford

Plastics
"I just want to say one word to you. Just one word: plastics." Calder Willingham, The Graduate

Printing Press
"What gunpowder did for war, the printing press has done for the mind." Wendell Phillips

Polytheism
"Not at all similar are the race of the immortal gods and the race of men who walk upon the earth." Homer

Pottery
"Hath not the potter power over the clay, to make one vessel unto honor, and another unto dishonor?" The Bible, Romans

Radio
"The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." Oscar Wilde

Railroad

Recycling

Refining
"One could argue that the defining truth of the luxury inherent in Western society is the ability to stand in a snowbank in Maine and enjoy a fresh pineapple from Hawaii." William Rivers Pitt

Refrigeration
"Tell me what you eat, and I will tell you what you are." Anthelme Brillat-Savarin

Republic
"The problem of power is how to achieve its responsible use rather than its irresponsible and indulgent use - of how to get men of power to live for the public rather than off the public." Robert F. Kennedy

Robotics
"The real problem is not whether machines think, but whether men do." B.F. Skinner

Rocketry
"The Earth is the cradle of the mind, but one cannot eternally live in a cradle." Konstantin E. Tsiolkovsky

Sanitation
"As one who long in populous city spent, where houses thick and sewers annoy the air, forth issuing on a summer's morn to breathe, among the pleasant villages and farms adjoin'd, from each thing met conceives delight." John Milton

Seafaring
"We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." T. S. Eliot

Space Flight
"If you had any balls, you'd say 'Oh, my God, what is that thing?' then scream and cut your mic." Michael Collins, suggesting what Neil Armstrong should say upon stepping onto the lunar surface

Stealth

Steam Engine
"You would make a ship sail against the winds and currents by lighting a bonfire under her deck? I have no time for such nonsense." Napoleon, on Robert Fulton's steamship

Steel

Superconductor

Tactics
"The difficulty of tactical maneuvering consists in turning the devious into the direct, and misfortune into gain." Sun Tzu

Imperialism
"When the white man turns tyrant, it is his own freedom that he destroys." George Orwell

Theory of Gravity
"I can calculate the movement of the stars, but not the madness of men." Sir Isaac Newton

Trade
"Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it." Publius Syrus

University
"There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi-Talib

Warrior Code
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win." Sun-Tzu

Wheel

Writing
"True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written; in writing what deserves to be read." Pliny the Elder

Future Technology
"The future will be better tomorrow." Dan Quayle

Fiber Optics
"There is a single light of science, and to brighten it anywhere is to brighten it everywhere." Isaac Asimov

Grenades
"If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them." Jack Handey

Plate Mail
"Now thrive the armourers, and honour's thought reigns solely on the breast of every man." William Shakespeare

Jet Engine

Theology
"Two cities have been formed by two loves: the earthly by the love of self; the heavenly by the love of God." St. Augustine

Free Market
"The answer to any question starting, 'Why don't they-' is almost always, 'Money.'" Robert A. Heinlein
 
We must be careful how we use the terms 'good' and 'bad'. Sand is good on a beach, but bad in the crankcase of your car. Lead is good for the combustion of gasoline in your carburettor, but bad in your lungs.
-Jerome Hines-

don't know if it has anything to do with anything but...
 
Google is a wonderful thing...


The Wheel
These might not be quite what you're looking for, but I think they seem appropriate since I consider it to be a low priority tech.

"Man has always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much...the wheel, New York, wars and so on...while all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man...for precisely the same reason."
- Douglas Adams

"Without question, the greatest invention in the history of mankind is beer. Oh, I grant you that the wheel was also a fine invention, but the wheel does not go nearly as well with pizza."
- Dave Barry

"The guy who invented the first wheel was an idiot. The guy who invented the other three, HE was a genius."
- Sid Ceasar



Conscription
"Conscription is a necessity; the conscription is a law; the conscription is just. It is the justest mode of raising an army—just to the people of every class and condition, poor and rich, lack and white. No class of citizens is exempt from its operation-even poor clergymen, if drafted, being compelled to shoulder their musket."
-The New York Times, July 15, 1863


a couple alternatives for Engineering
Engineering refers to the practice of organizing the design and construction [and, I would add operation] of any artifice which transforms the physical world around us to meet some recognized need.
- GFC Rogers
The Nature of Engineering, A Philosophy of Technology.

or
Engineering ... to define rudely but not inaptly, is the art of doing that well with one dollar, which any bungler can do with two after a fashion.
- Arthur Mellen Wellington

Explosives

"Between the end of the Civil War and the end of World War II, no single engineering tool surpassed the achievement of dynamite."
www.explosives.org/International Society of Explosives Engineers

or
"Alfred Nobel's discoveries are characteristic; powerful explosives can help men perform admirable tasks. They are also a means to terrible destruction in the hands of the great criminals who lead peoples to war."
- Pierre Curie

Laser
This was the first thing that came to my mind. I think that says something about me.
"You know, I have one simple request. And that is to have sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads!"
-Dr. Evil, Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery

Map making
"Now when I was a little chap I had a passion for maps. I would look for hours at South America, or Africa, or Australia, and lose myself in all the glories of exploration. At that time there were many blank spaces on the earth, and when I saw one that looked particularly inviting on a map (but they all look like that) I would put my finger on it and say, 'When I grow up I will go there'."
Joseph Conrad, Heart of Darkness

or
"As geographers, Sosius, crowd into the edges of their maps parts of the world which they do not know about, adding notes in the margin to the effect that beyond this lies nothing but sandy deserts full of wild beasts, and unapproachable bogs. "
Plutarch

Miniaturization
The problem is to compress a room full of digital computation equipment into the size of a suitcase, then a shoe box, and finally small enough to hold in the palm of the hand.
-Jack Staller, 1959
 
Good stuff you guys. I will definitely use a lot of these.

Another potentially good one for Theocracy (which is just my name for Fundamentalism):

"The only way to cooperate with fundamentalists, it has been said, is to obey them." Bill Moyers
 
"The guy who invented the first wheel was an idiot. The guy who invented the other three, HE was a genius."
- Sid Ceasar

Hah, that got me cracked up! :lol:
 
Making progress-- I'm now only missing quotes for Combined Arms, Laser, Stealth, and Superconductor. I'm not using something from Austin Powers, Tim :)
 
MikeLynch said:
I'm not using something from Austin Powers, Tim :)
:cry:

Ok, how about this for Laser
"But they were exceedingly happy about the prospect of a death ray, Buck Rogers style, although I wasn't so hot on that idea . There were plenty of real applications for the laser, but that's what got them in. "
-Gordon Gould (inventor of the laser)

And Combined Arms:
"The helicopter approaches closer than any other vehicle to fulfillment of mankind's ancient dreams of the flying horse and the magic carpet."
-Igor Sikorsky

or perhaps even better...

"Where is the prince who can afford so to cover his country with troops for its defense, as that ten thousand men descending from the clouds, might not, in many places, do an infinite deal of mischief before a force could be brought together to repel them?"
- Benjamin Franklin
 
Ooo, those are good. I especially like the Franklin one.
 
OK, I've now got a quote for every advance except Superconductor. Maybe I should just take that tech out :rolleyes:

I like that Franklin quote, but I went with something a little more obvious (perhaps even cliched) for Combined Arms:
"We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender." -- Winston Churchill
 
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