Announcing heihojin's 14th PBEM game - Conquests!

It seems I was a little hasty in requesting the upgrade to v1.20, as I simply assumed (wrongly) that Firaxis gave a damn about their PBEM players. Once again, their fumbling developers have screwed us and I am forced to ask you to maintain an obsolete v1.15 Beta installation.

It is relatively simple to maintain two distinct installations of Conquests. If you haven't yet upgraded, and are still using v1.15 Beta:
  1. Rename the Civilization III\Conquests folder to "Conquests v1.15 Beta" or something like that.
  2. Uninstall Conquests with "Add/Remove Programs" from your Control Panel.
  3. Reinstall Conquests to the default folder.
  4. Install the patches for both v1.20 and v1.22.
If you have already installed the v1.20 or v1.22 patches, you can follow the above steps to rename your Conquests folder to "Conquests v1.22", uninstall Conquests, reinstall Conquests, and then install the v1.15 Beta patch. Thankfully, all three patches can still be found at http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3patches.shtml.

I have sent what I'm sure will be the first of many negative feedback submissions to Firaxis. If you would like to add your two cents and let them know how miserable they've made your game-playing experience, the URL is http://www.firaxis.com/contact_gamefeedback.cfm.


heihojin
 
heihojin,
I have already played game #13 with the 1.20 version before getting your e-mail and this post. Do I need to go back now and replay my turn with the old version? Also, why are we going back to 1.15? Yes, 1.20 has some bugs in it, but it's still playable right? Or is it unplayable for some people? I have played a lot of my 20 different PBEM games in the past several days with the 1.20 patch and all work. My single player games work also. Just wondering what the problem is.
 
Originally posted by DogBoy
heihojin,
I have already played game #13 with the 1.20 version before getting your e-mail and this post. Do I need to go back now and replay my turn with the old version? Also, why are we going back to 1.15? Yes, 1.20 has some bugs in it, but it's still playable right? Or is it unplayable for some people? I have played a lot of my 20 different PBEM games in the past several days with the 1.20 patch and all work. My single player games work also. Just wondering what the problem is.
I patched to v1.22 and attempted to load a v1.15 Beta save game. It failed to load.

I am unsure as to what the extent of the incompatibility is. The CFC home page states that v1.20 cannot load save games from earlier versions. The official Civilization III site doesn't even mention v1.22 yet, but states that v1.20 can load earlier saved games. So this is what we are going to do:
  1. For the current turn (3550 BC) for Game 14, play it as v1.15 Beta.
  2. When I get the turn beginning 3500 BC, I will attempt to convert it to v1.20. Assuming I am successful, we will play 3500 BC under v1.20.
  3. When I get the turn beginning 3450 BC, I will attempt to convert it to v1.22. Assuming I am again successful, we will play under v1.22 from that point forward.
Did I mention that I hate Firaxis? :saiyan:

heihojin
 
Lemme just ask one question then. Like I said, I already played the game #13 which is the Middle Ages game using 1.20 before I saw your e-mail and the post on CFC. I also sent the game IsildursHeir, and then I sent him another e-mail telling him not to play the game. I did a lot that turn. My question is, do you want me to replay that turn using 1.15, or can I put that off until we figure out if 1.20 is going to work. Let me know what you want me to do regarding the Middle Ages game and I will do it. Thanks.
 
Originally posted by DogBoy
My question is, do you want me to replay that turn using 1.15, or can I put that off until we figure out if 1.20 is going to work. Let me know what you want me to do regarding the Middle Ages game and I will do it. Thanks.
I answered your question in the home thread for Game 13. I won't repeat it here for risk of confusing the Game 14 players. :p


heihojin
 
I had already played my turn with 1.20 before getting your mail. It loaded without any troubles and I had sent it to Portuga already...
 
Originally posted by LouLong
I had already played my turn with 1.20 before getting your mail. It loaded without any troubles and I had sent it to Portuga already...
OK, we'll do this instead then:
  1. If you have not yet played your 3550 BC turn, please do so using v1.20.
  2. When I get the turn beginning 3500 BC, I will attempt to convert it to v1.22. Assuming I am successful, we use v1.22 from that point forward.
Oh, I forgot to mention...

I HATE FIRAXIS!!!!! :wallbash:


heihojin
 
I just received the turn beginning 3500 BC, which I presume was played by LouLong and all players following him using v1.20. I then attempted to load the game using v1.22, and it failed to load.

Thanks to Firaxis, we now have to decide which obsolete version of the game to maintain so that we may continue playing this game. We may choose either v1.15 Beta or v1.20. Given the known problems with v1.20, I recommend that we stick with v1.15 Beta. Unfortunately, this will require replaying the 3550 BC turn.

I will wait 24 hours before resending the 3550 BC turn to be replayed using v1.15 Beta. If anyone has a good argument for choosing v1.20 instead, please post it.

I really, really, REALLY hate Firaxis. :wallbash: :rant:


heihojin
 
My only good arguement for using 1.20 is it works. I am now in 21 PBEM games and everyone is using 1.20. I don't want to have two versions of civ3 on my computer. But if everybody wants 1.15, then I will. Yes, 1.20 has some problems, but those problems won't help or hurt anybody and give anybody an unfair advantage. Only my $.02.
 
LouLong, you doing ok there? You seem like you want to ask me something but the words just aren't coming out.
 
I agree with DogBoy as well, on his grounds. (Except that I'm only in 2 PBEMs - how on Earth do you manage to keep track of 21 games?!!:) )
 
Very well, we'll keep the game on v1.20.


heihojin
 
Originally posted by DogBoy
LouLong, you doing ok there? You seem like you want to ask me something but the words just aren't coming out.

A problem occured when I was typing but I did not realize it had taken 4 posts altogether ! :eek:

Anyway , just wanted to say : BTW aren't you supposed to be in PBEM 13th thread (because Heihojin keeps on reminding you) :D
 
Yes, I should have been posting in the hhj#13 thread, but I didn't realize until after several posts.

I keep track of 21 different e-mails by using an excel spreadsheet. It lets me know the name of the game, what the save is called (everybody is different), the date I sent the turn (always the date I receive it cause I play too much), and peace/tech trade/wars with the people in the game. It's really quite simple, and lots of fun because some of these games take days to get back to me.
 
Originally posted by DogBoy
Yes, I should have been posting in the hhj#13 thread, but I didn't realize until after several posts.

I keep track of 21 different e-mails by using an excel spreadsheet. It lets me know the name of the game, what the save is called (everybody is different), the date I sent the turn (always the date I receive it cause I play too much), and peace/tech trade/wars with the people in the game. It's really quite simple, and lots of fun because some of these games take days to get back to me.

You too!?! :eek:

I keep track of my Heihojin PBEMs with an Excel spreadsheet, where I record the dates and times when I recieve the turn, when I send the confirmation, when I send the turn, and when I recieve that confirmation. And then I keep track of some events (research, wonders, etc.) just for the heck of it. But I never thought of recording peace treaties, trades, and wars! (On the other hand, I've only come across that once in all of my PBEMs... ;) )
 
I've finally sent the 3500 BC turn out as v1.20. I'm sorry about the delay; I became somewhat distracted this weekend.

This game will remain as v1.20 until further notice.


heihojin
 
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