Another Religion Mod

[alireza1354]

Let me tell you of Islams "tolerance". In Iran, Afganistan, ect. if you are found to be christian or another religen you will be exicuted or at least have all of you rights taken away and imprisoned. Moslems invaded Spain first killing anyone who didn't convert. The modern muslum states have decread they will enialate Isrial from the face of the earth. Fatwa, Jihad, First the Saterday people then the Sunday people! If this is your idea of tolerance, you blaspheme against human kind. And yes I have travled to the Mddle East, and I have a BA in hstory. Don't try to B.S. me.

You would be rather living in the Middle East of 800-1500 than in Europe of the same age.

Oh, and I am drs in political sciences, and director of an islamic organization based in the Netherlands, I speak, read and write in 13 languages, have no problem reading historical records in different languages from different sources (including Al Jamiado; Spanish in Arabic script), and I am very well acquanted with history. Especially pre- and post-islamic history of the middle east and north africa. Oh. And yes. Have been there too. My parents where even born there.

Moslims compelling people to become muslim in Spain? Utter nonsense. Spanish historians would laugh in your face by telling that. Islamic Spain was the centre of civilization and humanity in a dark europe of christian blind fanaticism, backwardness and superstition. It took centuries before the people of Spain were predominantly muslim; convertions went naturally most of the times. When Spain was conquered, the church helped, out of protest against Rome and the longing to become more independent from the Pope. Jews saw the islamic conquest as a blessing.

As Israel is concerned, yeah.. True. The situation in which Israel has been made, lies at the basis of many problems in the middle east. Maybe if some people, supported by the worlds most powerfull nations take your land and kick you out, you will understand. Still, it wasnt the muslims who tried to gass them en masse and when they saw they didnt succeed, dumped most of them in the middle east and by these means, doing what Hitler coulndt do; cleanse Europe in an efficient and diplomatic way from Jews.

Jews and Arabs may live in political turmoil now, but we have been living in relatively good relations the last 1400 year. You and your 200 year divide and rule politics cant definitively change that. Our problems are temporary. Israel will soon be our Hong Kong, and U will pay the prize cause U have something to lose there in the middle east. We will win eachother back.

Whats wrong with fatwa and jihad? If you want a academic discussion about these 2 terms, be my guest. First the Saturday then the Sunday people? After you killed the Friday people, yes, in which I have to admit, you are making quite some progress.

Well.. I have seen your idea of tolerance and humanity. We see it every day and everywhere. The product of 200 years of western imperialism in the world. THANK U!



GReetings!

 

[Cannae]

No offence to Europe but I do have to say that Europe was kind of the village idiot of the world at the time of the medeivl ages.And aslo don't you think it is ironic that even though that Christianty and Jeusus were both pacificts yet more people died in their name than in any other religion and person in history.

 

[alireza1354]

Aside from the traditional 'no pork for jews' ' no cattle for hindus' type of thing, I would love to see this implemented in a Religion mod;

1- Some Works of wonder are ONLY available if you have a certain percentage of your population of that faith. IE: The sistine chapel, requires atleast 33% christian to begin construction.

Since there is quite an investment of time involved, it can't be stopped once it is started if the percent was to decrease. The idea here is that if you for whatever reason choose not to select a state religion and cultivate many faiths, then you now have a tactical reason to do so; You have many more works of wonder options available.

I tend to be ruthless, in that I only cultivate the religion of my state. In real life I am actually much more tolerant. I'd be tolerant in the game, if there was a tactical reason to do so like this.

2- Some Works of Wonder function differently based on your state religion.
Okay, so lets take a Anachronistic "Sliders" look at a world where the Hindus dominate the entire world. We build the "Sistine Chapel".
I'd like to see it have a different effect based on my state faith.

Just minor tweaks like that, so that I don't simply stick with the first religion I found and try to cram it down everyone elses throat so I can see into their cities, which is what I always do.

I completely agree with that one. You make this thread interesting

 

[alireza1354]

This mod is a total joke btw... I mean really ... look at how insane it is. Pat Robertson being aggressive, spiraitual , religous , and financial ... every religion execpt christianity slowing down spaceship production , christianity increasing production , military production ,worker speed ... if you played this its quite obvious nothing in this mod is realistic.

??? Oh my God ...

 

[onedreamer]

No offence to Europe but I do have to say that Europe was kind of the village idiot of the world at the time of the medeivl ages.And aslo don't you think it is ironic that even though that Christianty and Jeusus were both pacificts yet more people died in their name than in any other religion and person in history.

No offense to Slavic Sioux, but we already learnt to ignore your totaly clueless views of European culture in other threads.

 

[Impaler[WrG]]

This mod was a tastless and offensive troll, the author has admited such after formenting much anger and wasting many other people time, deleate it ASAP

 

[Cannae]

I am not saying that Eurpoe is a bad place in fact it has qutie an interseting history however.However I am offended when you try to impose your history on to others and yes I may have done it too I just wish you would have senisitiveitys for other peoples views.Oh yah when you say "we"who are you refering to???

 

[Fachy]

Let me tell you of Islams "tolerance". In Iran, Afganistan, ect. if you are found to be christian or another religen you will be exicuted or at least have all of you rights taken away and imprisoned. Moslems invaded Spain first killing anyone who didn't convert. The modern muslum states have decread they will enialate Isrial from the face of the earth. Fatwa, Jihad, First the Saterday people then the Sunday people! If this is your idea of tolerance, you blaspheme against human kind. And yes I have travled to the Mddle East, and I have a BA in hstory. Don't try to B.S. me.

You're crazy! Hindu minotirities live till today in Afghanistan, Xorothists(?) minorities live till today in Iran, and we've got Christian minorities living till today in Egypt, normally like all other citizens!!

Go wipe your *** with that "BS history", you probably never went to elementary school anyway!

 

[Fachy]

Utter nonsense. U should do something to your history.

Islam is by far the most tolerant religion of all monotheist religions. Christianity and Judaism are very rigid in comparison. Islam is only predominantly haunted by fanaticism and backwardness in the last 200 years or so.

Greetings

I'm a Moslem myself, and I can say that on the THEORETICAL scale, Christianity is the most accepting. Coming to what people actually do, I'd go for Moslems being most tolerent. Jews are worse on both the theoretical scale (anyone read exodus??) and practical scale (israel)

 

[onedreamer]

No religion is tolerant. In fact, a religion is in short a grouping of people and therefore a separation of a group of people from other(s) group(s) of people in what they believe. It is then up to the people to be tolerant or not, but normally human being are not tolerant.
Let me add that I think that tolerant people actually do not follow any religion if not their own personal credo.

 

[Fachy]

I was speaking relatively
Also seeing what the holy books say, whether implemented or not

 

[Cannae]

No religion is tolerant. In fact, a religion is in short a grouping of people and therefore a separation of a group of people from other(s) group(s) of people in what they believe. It is then up to the people to be tolerant or not, but normally human being are not tolerant.
Let me add that I think that tolerant people actually do not follow any religion if not their own personal credo.

Buddism is a tolerant religon becuse you can be any religion plus being Buddist (exasample Christianty-Buddisit)because they do not conflict(in my mind that is).Shintoism yes they are the most tolroant religon in the world because it you are reqired to go to other religons places of worship and holy places and respect there beliefs.

 

[onedreamer]

obviously oriental religions have much differences from western and middle western ones. They are more of a philosophy than a religion.

 

[Fachy]

A Christian Buddhist? So you'd view your after-life as being born into some other creature, or going to God for judegement? Also who is the "chosen one" or whatever, Jesus or Buddha? I'm sure there are tons of other contradictions which will prevent a christian from being a buddhist @ the same time!

 

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