Ask a British private school boy...

Truronian

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I was gonna open this thread back during the popular "Ask a..." period, but I figured it would be best to wait until I had finished incase there were any questions on the latter stages of exams etc (plus I'm pretty bored at the moment).

The school I go/went to isn't one of the larger, pricier or more famous public schools in the UK (It generally lingers around the early hundreds in the league tables). It has a few famous alumni, most notably Roger Taylor, John Rhys-Davies and Ben Ainslie. On the whole though its pretty much the Trotter's Independent Traders of independant schools :mischief:.

So, any questions?
 
Is it a boarding school?

Both sex or same sex?

Do you think the expert education you recieve will help you get a good job, old school tie network?

You're going to Oxford right is that to Universtity there?
 
Sidhe said:
Is it a boarding school?
Yeah, although I don't board. There are about 10-15 boarders in my year out of around 100 students. iIn general privates schools are shifting towards day pupils as their primary income, although number of boarders is one of the factors that seperates the more prestigious schools from the more mundane.
Both sex or same sex?
Both. Boys tend to outnumber girls by about 3:1, as the school used to be boys only. (Its about 2:1 in sixth form) I have a few freinds who used to go same sex schools, and they generally hated it. Social life is far more polarised (cool/uncool) and often the objective of same sex education, namely to avoid the distractions of the opposite sex, are undermined by prevelence of boys/girls using the sex same schools as pick up grounds.
Do you think the expert education you recieve will help you get a good job, old school tie network?
I think I have recieved better education and have achieved more than I would have at a state school. I doubt I'll take any contacts out of school though. Contacts are reserved for the rich kids and those that suck up to the headmaster/chaplain. Not completely sure how such networks work elsewhere. Independant schools definitely have an unpleasent air of hierachy in them. Richer kids tend to hang with richer kids and the parents are generally very snooty.
You're going to Oxford right is that to Universtity there?
Yeah, although I'm in the minority. The most common uni for alumni is Cardiff.

EDIT: Expanded on the answers.
 
Moderator Action: I utterly fail to see a point on this thread. So, to the starter, please PM me with what is the purpose intented here. If you do show me that, I'll re-open it.
 
Moderator Action: Ok. Upon talking with thread starter, the intention of this topic is to ask questions about how is life in public schools. Notice that this is a general topic, not about his life or [/i]his[/i] private school in particular. Insights of other people in such schools also welcomed.

I'll allow it to go on, but please do avoid turning it into a user-specific thread.
 
Do you wear one of those funny public school hats?
Do you play Lacross?
 
Joeb WK said:
Do you wear one of those funny public school hats?
No. Few (secondary) independant schools do nowadays. Practicality is more important than look.
Do you play Lacross?
No, and I can't say I've met anyone who does. Sportwise, rugby is the main game that is played, it is far more popular than football although I have no idea why. Lacrosse has always struck me as more of an American phenomenon (any posters correct me on this?).
 
Truronian said:
No, and I can't say I've met anyone who does. Sportwise, rugby is the main game that is played, it is far more popular than football although I have no idea why. Lacrosse has always struck me as more of an American phenomenon (any posters correct me on this?).

I suspect that rugby being more popular is at least partly down to elitism/snobbery. Soccer/fotball is what the working class plebs play. Rugby tends to look down its nose a bit at rugby league (with good reason IMO), so it seems to be a natural pick as a sport for snobbish institutions that like looking down their collective nose at supposedly lesser institutions. High priced private schools seem to fit that bill nicely.
 
sanabas said:
I suspect that rugby being more popular is at least partly down to elitism/snobbery. Soccer/fotball is what the working class plebs play. Rugby tends to look down its nose a bit at rugby league (with good reason IMO), so it seems to be a natural pick as a sport for snobbish institutions that like looking down their collective nose at supposedly lesser institutions. High priced private schools seem to fit that bill nicely.

This wouldn't surprise me. Its always struck me as funny that the upper class have adopted the violent game (rugby) whereas the lower class have adopted the more artistic game (football), when the stereotype would suggest that should be the other way round.

I was wondering that as well. I have a rough idea, but i'd like it clarified

I only know what it means from overuse of bebo... :blush:
 
Hi Truronian, to assist with making this thread less user specific, I will chip in with answers also, seeing as I too went to a public school. Not in detail now, but later I will return.

Some background:

~ I was a full time boarder for my whole time at a school called Oundle, so can answer specific questions about that experience.

~ We too experienced the shift from same sex to mixed when I was there.

~ I never played Lacross, but played plenty of squash and had the chance to play "fives", which is similar to squash, a very elitist sport and was taken pretty seriously. I can answer a great deal of questions about public school sporting traditions, as I was captain of my rugby team and was generally rolled up in all the bloody hero worship of sportsmen there, as well as the historical aspects of sports, public schools and the relationship to empire.

~ I can tell you some about racism and general narrow-mindedness at such schools.

~ I hope to come back to the old boy school network question, especially in relation to the line just above.

~ Let's not forget bullying, in its casual and institutional forms!

Sanabas: Regarding rubgy, it must be remembered that the game was invented in a public school itself. A school called Rubgy in fact (we used to play them). That closetted early atmosphere of the game meant that it did not flow out freely into society. Snobby rugger buggers wished to keep it away from the unruly masses and indeed I don't think the working classes were interested in playing something with so many elitist associations. IOW - it was and still is a two-way social dynamic. Cricket was subject to a similar, but not same, social dynamic. EDIT: In fact, with cricket, this is an ongoing process. If I am not mistaken, state schools actually abolished the playing of cricket - in the 80s!

Sorry to be brief. On the hop, what what. ;)
 
Rambuchan said:
~ I was a full time boarder for my whole time at a school called Oundle, so can answer specific questions about that experience.
How did you find boarding? I've found most of the boarders I know have very polarised views on it. Some love it, some despise it.
~ I can tell you some about racism and general narrow-mindedness at such schools.
Narrow-mindedness I've encountered, but racism is new to me. I think I got lucky at my school when it came to this.
 
I too was at public school, highly regarded and damn expensive - Uppingham. I started there when I was 13 and was a boarder from the age of 8 to the age of 18.

I enjoyed all the facilities and thought the education was second-to-none. However, I experienced some heavy duty bullying and found that most of the other pupils were never going to break out of the 'School Network'.

Sports were definatley a strong point of the School, everyone wanted to be part of the 'lad' culture that once existed - the only way into the 'lads' was to be in the 1st XV Rugby. That was elitism. Many of these boys felt pressure from everyone and had to succeed.

I found Public School to be a burden - I missed out on family stuff. I have no experience of State School to compare against.

Holidays was what I enjoyed most about boarding!! :goodjob:
 
Truronian said:
How did you find boarding? I've found most of the boarders I know have very polarised views on it. Some love it, some despise it.
I loved it! However, remember, I was one of those rugby hero, jack the lads that Winston mentions. This means I was never really on the receiving end of bullying, quite the opposite in fact (I was suspended aka "rusticated" :lol: for it, in fact). I will lay out some major post about bullying later and maybe this below will go some way to illustrating why I do not regret being punished for bullying (I was playing the game the system forced us to, to survive).

It's a huge issue that goes well beyond just kids stuff. Indeed, I believe that the deeply entrenched, ritualistic and institutionalised bullying at public schools has a lot to do with social conditioning for future life in society - we were conditioned to be 'top dogs', if you like. More significantly, let us not forget the close and easy relationship between public school and EMPIRE. This was conditioning towards superiority, to be dished out on a global scale!

More later on: cold baths, fagging, slavery, running the gauntlet, nose races, wedgies, soft toys as weapons, army training and use of boot heels, warming the toilet seat, early morning runs, public humiliation and so much more. These are all the building blocks that were used to construct the edifice in the child's mind that they were to be - rulers of other people - administrators of empire - harshly if need be.
Truronian said:
Narrow-mindedness I've encountered, but racism is new to me. I think I got lucky at my school when it came to this.
I arrived into England, an Indian kid, coming from Zambia - into the stuffy, elitist, prejudiced world that is so deeply embued with the culture I mention above. I received racist abuse from day one - from teachers - as well as kids.

Narrow-mindedness is also a big area. If we consider that the notion of superiority is to be maintained at all costs, you can clearly see why they put shackles on kids' minds. So, aside from things like racism, there was also intellectual stuffiness in the way we were taught.

Unlike Winston, I got the opportunity to make a comparison between state and private education in Britain. After GCSEs (age 15 I did them), I went to Sixth Form College (SFC) in Cambridge, a state run enterprise. One could easily compare the quality of education. In fact, Oundle did pretty well in league tables, but Hills Road SFC topped the leagues for A levels for 3 years running while I was there (it was later pipped by a private sixth form college). In OT terminology, it was a veritable dichotomy between "conservatism" and "liberalism".
 
classical_hero said:
Is there much evidence of of Homosexuality?

No more than anywhere else (at least in co-eds). Same-sex schools may be a different story however, there are certainly lots of (probably baseless) rumours. Homophobia, on the other hand, is rife (due to the small year groups mixed with elitism and conformism).
 
is everyone there posh in their speech and everything; or are there a few rebels who didn't want to go to a private school, and make it obvious?
 
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