Awesome Sultan images from Ankara :)

Erdogan is hilarious. :lol:
 
And here, ladies and gentlemen, yet another fist-fight shall begin, ala Balkan style. Hold into your monocles, cuz it's gonna get ugly.
 
Unlike what many may think, Balkan peoples can take humor and satire. I laughed at Kheshig's post.
 
We have humor in the balkans :D Apparently so do central asians :mischief: ;)

Also:

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now you can do this without having "sigorta" or get "insured"...

all the reforms could be done by other Goverments with the expanding economy . ı hardly need a reminder of how things were in the 1980s , having waited two hours or more just to get a prescription for a drug slightly more powerful than Aspirin . But then all the reforms have their little tiny stuff that comes alongside . So that full privitization of Medical Services can take place . As soon as the need for winning elections goes away . For every 100 newspaper articles that lauds the New , there is one of the handicapped kid who failed to score 50 and more on the IQ test and the State stopped paying for medication , costing something like 1500 USD a week . Took some two years to die , at the age of 5 or so .
Bak kardesim yigidi oldur hakkini yeme
means one should accept the PM is doing good stuff and one must accept that even if also hating his guts . It would really help if that narrative also took into account of the programs of the New , which kinda steadily insults the rest and demands respect at the same time .
One of my lecturer from Ankara university, a very militant ataturkcu and anti-Erdogan guy, he even told me Erdogan government do massive improvement and change, and they are actually working unlike his predecessor which he called them lazy and corrupted. He told me how back then Istanbul was so mess up and dirty, the golden horn was so dirty and you can smell it from afar, people have problem with fresh water, and since Erdogan everything changed.
he is merely explaining why the people seems to be enamoured with him . It's a typical failing of the Left , they still expect America arrange a financial meltdown like the one that paved the way for A-K-P . It's the expanding economy that has allowed the "relief" .

I salute his honesty, even though until now he hold a firm stance against Erdogan, and ring out over and over again that he is under US and Zionist influence, and he want to apply shariah, which both claim utterly makes me confuse.

you won't be sitting long on the top if you are not an American puppet . And kinda more . You won't even come to the top ... That's why the PM is desperately trying to create a power base of his own , naturally depending on extremist "Islam" now that it's blindingly obvious that America will trade him for his former Foreign Minister and achieve the dissolution of the Turkish Republic , which somehow must be bugging Washington so hard . Or something .
 
never minding the PM has now collected 16 intellectuals at his lunch table , "repeating" Kemal's meetings . The guy who made the first press statement , the guy with the "full secular" thing , declares the New Turkey will now raise its youth as self confident and humble at the same time . To this end it's expected everybody will call Palace not as Palace but Külliye , the cultural complex Sultans would have built back in the days of Ottomans . Not only that ... A second professor declares the Guard , the 16 guys at the back page , has been approved by Putin . This second proffessor is of course the very one who back in 2012 was so much vocal for war in Syria , and quietly very whispery about a war with Russia if that came to that .

this approval by Putin thing in the paragraph above wins January 2015 .

although there has been a solid effort by an A-K-P MP who declares the 16 guys prove the "Intermission" of 90 years after the 600 years of Ottomans has ended . Like one watches some hour in a movie theater , gets out in the break and buys pop-corn and returns for the second half of the movie ... She would have been an awesome competitor , luckily she is not a CFC member .

considering there is almost an hysteria about one of the guys , possibly the one at the top of the stairs who just looks like wearing a bathrobe . He is supposed to represent the Dynasty of Shower-cabinet-sons ...
 
there is this history show on TV . With the host in regular fight with the viewers , who have a angry pair of hands on the keyboard as they watch , if one is to believe the host . Only to be regularly and gloriously trounced by the wisdom of the host . His most famous deed in history will be the funeral of some Ottoman Crown-prince some 30 years . As a journo , he was the only one from Turkey . Naturally no money to buy the plot and the authorities in France will naturally have to remove the remains after the end of the allotted time to bury someone else . Scenes in Turkey . With reports of Islamophobic France dumping the bones of an Ottoman in the sewer . The host was busy with other stuff at the time , he forgot the time limit . This is merely a prelude to the stuff he often uses ; a phrase that declares he doesn't respect it if he doesn't believe in it .

he's very vocal about Ottoman language lessons ; as much as he is about daily use of Ottoman palaces . In addition to other palaces . The New Turkey doesn't respect the old and merely claims of respecting the older . Respect is due as long as it is useful . The case of the A-K-P MP who declared the Republic she took an oath to serve is an intermission of 90 years between times of greatness is readily explained that she wants to prove her credentials as a lackey , considering the candidate lists for the coming elections are drawn up . Just like the PM's father would beat him with carpet slippers and that's why he is still compensating is among the BS the US offers as proof that they are not after the dismantling of this country . Respect is so superficial that people don't even attempt to deceive people that they are showing respect . Respect comes from the US , the center of power against which even the Almighty God is powerless ; when the US is busy with more pressing matters and prods the smarties to show respect . Respect comes tinted with propaganda . The PM has the Dynasty of Showercabinetsons behind him and the critics have the the temerity to dislike it ; proves the critics can not be Turks to begin with . Respect comes with teaching . From a Party TV we learn , we are taught actually , that this New Turkey is so great that it can no longer fit in with the borders as described by the Misak-ı Milli ...

within minutes we learn the Treaty of Lausanne is soon to be repudiated . Don't ask how come . They have this deal with the seperatists , that deal with the Barzanists and some other deal with ISIL . They just have to juggle three balls in the air and we will be given new territories and lands ; we will be great enough to compensate for the loss of a quarter of the country . Turkey's future is assured , seperatist politicians assure TV viewers , as long as it conducts its policies with a strict avoidance of Turkish interests . Nobody asks , too . This host of Voice of Russia has a fetish about the sturdiness of Kurds ; when there is a centimeter of snow in Istanbul , the whole life ends and the whole country watches the disaster unfolding while there are really places in the East that lives 6 months surrounded by 2 meters of snow , no one in and no one out . The host has a right to make fun of this and he invites a village headman from Sarıkamış who is obviously encouraged to remark on how Kurds like the village headman himself are strong and shirk from no hardship . Sarıkamış being where thousands of Turkish troops froze to death in one night and Kurds live all their lives there , right ? A real "Oh, MY GOD!" moment as the headman starts talking about how they weren't scared of seperatists either . One just loves such entertainment . As the host tries to silence the headman and the headman talks and talks . A day passes and the host finds a village headman whose village wasn't attacked by the seperatists . God Bless failing ancient Russian tech that cut the host in mid-speech as he was lackeying some MP who blames coup-plotters for the lack of responsiveness from the seperatists when it comes to disbanding themselves and the host launching a barrage of lots and lots of works that "Turks" shouldn't fear ... Don't think the New actually loves its subjects disproportionately . We also hear from TV debates that the seperatists intend to launch full scale urban combat now that they have learned the trade in Ayn-al-Arab , that's why this country is still totally locked into supporting the ISIL as the whole eyes in the global intelligence community watching everything for use at the time when Turkey's turn comes .

to that end there is also a show of punishing the Congregation . Now it's the turn of the university entrance exams . Some years back it was blindingly obvious fraud was openly applied to put "Muslims" ahead of "Non-muslims" and the charges were simply laughed off . Respect for the rights of all finally comes and the stuff America desires goes on unabated . ı for one have never fathomed why America finds it so tough to face the Republic in open combat and has to re-install the Ottomans so that the demonseed known as Turks can finally be defeated and exterminated . Not that the American apparatchiks , the smarties actually want to do it . Aren't they already bigger and better and greater and finer than the Ottomans , don't they walk on water everyday of the week and everyday of the year ? Don't you know this country exports 10+ billions of dollars of stuff every month ? The smarties just laugh when the spokesperson for the Main Opposition finally feels forcefully compelled enough to declare this Republic was found with blood , and this Republic will fall with blood .

and there is this journo , who replaced the Bilderberg Muslim , possibly as soon as the old type of MSP voters were convinced of voting for the New . And there she is ... On a TV debate , watching the Islamist scholar - politician with wide open eyes . In disbelief as the guy in a low key tone talks of the New Islam that's getting increased following in the country . Where and when repeating a certain Verse a hundred times a day clears the Muslim from guilt and sin . So that kidnapping the neighbour's daughter and selling her in the bazaar becomes God's work . So that rape is just an economic consideration , with virgins bringing in kinda more cash . She's still unconvinced , she has to ask the guy . Possibly in Bilderberg they talked a day or two about the actual lack of "Muslim" reach and power and Turkey could control some Oil for the interests of the West and share a crump or two , too . And there she was , the chosen one among the ivory-tower dwellers of Turkish intellectuals and she was propelled to the forefront to convince Turks that there was this Turkish problem in Turkey and everything would come up roses once the Turks were dealt with . The guy could only say he had a 20 or 30 page article on how this New Islam was just a continuation of Umayyad policies that killed the grandsons of Muhammad , without any actual reference that they would have killed Muhammed , too . Only if they could . Can't say ı actually saw her shudder . But then she has no reason to fear a future of concubineship ; the plans are all Turkish vermin half-way intelligent and up will be immediately shot . "Real" Islam being the thing for real people who want to demolish the Prophet's grave to avoid blasphemy and built a palace instead . So that the 3 million Pilgrims each year arrive and see who's bigger , Allah's Messenger or King of Aramco ? And the smarties who actually think that particular Final Solution is merely limited to driving the Gastarbeiter from Europe . So that back at home and real angry , too , they won't vote for the A-K-P . As it seems ; the smarties shirk from sharing their wisdom with us the unwashed , when the unwashed seem enjoying the sight of the Showercabinetsons .

this being the truth with "real" people , it is not that much of a surprise to see the debates on the palace , the one the subject of this thread . The PM finally hitting low by saying "Thinking big is not the business of Dwarves, but Dwarves are our brothers." And the leader of the Main Opposition hitting even lower by suggesting the Dwarves are the Goverment of the Little Imperialist . ı think ı will win the month of February 2015 by reporting on what the denizens of Khazad-Dûm or Erebor think about all this .
 
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