Babylon

[pelmeister]

That's the Old Testament line. Revelations is much more like God's rethinking the whole Babylon character and thinking "I can't have this, it's too unfair on the other players". Arguably Babylon in Revelations is not Neb's Babylon but a general view on how God needs to deal with overly powerful civilizations. In that instance it is rather like Firaxis now having to reconsider the agricultural trait, which is widely viewed as too powerful in C3C

 

[Park Ranger]

Playing Babylon was the only time I was able to get a cultural victory in one city (20,000 cp). I had about nine cities total on a standard map, just enough to do research in the industrial era.

UU's like the Bab bowman and Carthaginian NuMerc let me expand quickly, since my main defenders are also useful as attackers in a pinch.

Along with the UU, Babylon's quickly expanding borders make it a great civ for defensive play.

 

[HamaticBabylon]

Yeah.. But you got to admit the Babylonians were horrible to the Hebrews. So god destroyed Babylon.

 

[pelmeister]

Took God a while though, I mean it all actually went pear-shaped during the time of Neb's grandson.

 

[Jaded_Feriluce]

Sounds like on the other page with that long quote from that BIG BLACK BOOK OF ALL WISDOM... it was more a potshot on America then any real form of Babylon... On a lighter note I used to ONLY play with Babylon when I first started playing Civ3.. it was a good one to get my bearings right with the game.. now Im kinda partial to the Indians.... I really want to try the C3C game though I've only had the Vanillia version.

 

[pelmeister]

@ Jaded
I wondered if civfanatics knew about it. I received it as an email a while back from another civ fan, who was trying to get me to stop playing the British all the time. I believe it is something to do with 9/11 (hence the religionist remarks) and probably needs to be editted to be completely relevant to civ iii. Having said that, if you want a cultural victory in civ iii, you are going to have to build sissys and bachs plus the odd cathedral, so you actually have to keep the religionist bits in.

 

[Jaded_Feriluce]

It was interesting enough, somtimes I fly off the handle when I see to many bible quotes... Sorry bout that, if you knew my family you'd know I knew just about everyone of those from hours of pulpet pounding..... And yes the only Culteral Victory i've ever had was with Babylon....

 

[pelmeister]

@jaded
Presumably you are grateful you have to build temples not churches

 

[Jaded_Feriluce]

Well of course! lol Ironicly being a ex-christian as well as an american....... plays right into all that stuff you said anyways, but whenever Im babylon on the game I change the name from King to Scarlet Whore.... makes it way funner when they celebrate....

 

[Justinian III]

Babylon is NOTHING next to The Roman Empire!!

Even the Ability to Destroy a Planet, is insignifagent next to the POWER of The Romans.

 

[Crakie]

I picked the Babs in my last deity game. I won a conquest victory after single handedly whiping out all my opponents myself. So HELL YEAH, you bet you can do well militarily with the Babs. I always liked the religious trade for allowing to efficiently building up your army in one non-corrupt government type, then using the army in another. In fact, I might try a militaristic/religious civ next!

 

[redux]

if winning is the key, and it doesn't matter *how* you win.. I'd say Babylon is the easiest by far.

Cultural or histographic (score based) victories are still fairly easy even on harder levels with this civ.

 

[pelmeister]

Does the AI know that? I mean, I have never ended up as Babylon when I set everything - including my own civ - to random. It's kind of like "no you can't have the easy civ"

 

[redux]

I'd say random is random.. I always play a random civ.. and yes I love it when I get babylon. I get it about as often as randomness would dictate this should happen... I honestly think the random civ thing is just a random choice on your computers part.

As a computer programmer I could argue that computers *are* incapable of generating random numbers, but this only shows over hundreds of thousands if not millions of times, and there are programming "exploits" to reduce it. I'd say from my experience it's as random as it gets insofar as Civ III.

 

[mihoshi]

Originally posted by pelmeister
What happened to Babylon rather depends on whether you read the Old Testament or the New one.

THere is a theory that present time Babylon is Moscow/Russia. Comply with what you said well

 

[HamaticBabylon]

No I think there was a conspiracy that shows at the "end of times" in the bible that Babylon is America?

 

[mihoshi]

Actually any great multinatianal country (of two ) could be

 

[Praetorian]

Originally posted by HamaticBabylon
I have become obsessed with this civilization. I use to like the Egyptians but i have enjoyed playing the Babylonians much more.

Does anyone share my passion for Babylon?

Sorry, if I am using standart Civ tribes I prefer the Scandanavians

 

[Jaded_Feriluce]

Babylon is a great civ! lol but I think Im startingto like the Indians better... I like the commercial trait.

 

[HorseSoldier]

The double wonderful whammy of Scientific and Religious gives me 4 out of the very first 5 City Imps I build at half price. I think that is huge. I pretty much play Babylon all the time and i'm starting to feel guilty.

Military might flows easier from those two traits than vice versa. Religious keeps your cities peaceful longer and therefore more productive and Scientific gives you a tech edge which translates directly into a kick-ass war machine.

One mainstay of the Civ franchise is: "The first guy to Flight..."