Bad rep from broken trade

[molesworth]

What happens if a trade deal you have made is broken through no fault of your own? I think this has happened to me when an AI trade partner has been at war with another civ and had their trade route to me pillaged. Subsequently other civs have been reluctant to trade with me because "I have broken deals with civ x in the past". I guess there is little you can do about this except to protect your trading partners. Has anyone else experienced this and/or got any thoughts on the subject?

I guess this situation could also arise if a trade embargo was agreed against you by your trading partner and a third party civ before the 20 turn deal had expired, but then surely it should be your trading partner who takes the rep hit ... shouldn't it?

 

[Optional]

I need to be a little bit reserved, as I'm not 100% sure, but I believe if you are exporting goods, and the trade route gets broken, other than clearly willfully by your partner, then you are the one that suffers the rep hit, because you are considered not to be keeping to your part of the deal. And the trade route can get broken through a volcano blowing up, a barbarian galley blocking the trade route, whatever... It might not seem fair, as you can't help it, but that's the way it works. Caution when making trade deals is probably the best advice.
I'm not sure about trade embargo's, but I would think that would not affect running deals, only yet to be made deals.

 

[Lord Emsworth]

If you export goods (luxes, resources) you take the rep hit when a trade route is broken, and if you import goods it is the AI who gets the rep-hit if the trade route is broken. I doesn't matter at all whose fault it is that a trade route is broken.

And yeah, you can go strike up a deal where you import goods bundle it up with almost anything that you like and then right away bring down the deal by willfull and obvious pillagaing and nothing will happen to your rep. The opposite hold true as well of course.

 

[molesworth]

Thanks for the answers. Who would take the rep hit if it was a simple exchange of resources, e.g: you exported iron and imported coal and the trade route was disrupted by a third party?

 

[Optional]

If you export goods (luxes, resources) you take the rep hit when a trade route is broken, and if you import goods it is the AI who gets the rep-hit if the trade route is broken. I doesn't matter at all whose fault it is that a trade route is broken.

And yeah, you can go strike up a deal where you import goods bundle it up with almost anything that you like and then right away bring down the deal by willfull and obvious pillagaing and nothing will happen to your rep. The opposite hold true as well of course.

And if I'm exporting and my trade partner declares war on me? I thought I was safe here... You've got me in doubt now, Lord Emsworth.

Who would take the rep hit if it was a simple exchange of reseources, e.g: you exported iron and imported coal and the trade route was disrupted by a third party?

The both of you.

 

[Lord Emsworth]

And if I'm exporting and my trade partner declares war on me? I thought I was safe here... You've got me in doubt now, Lord Emsworth.

No need to doubt. You are absolutely safe in that case.