Battleships vs. Tanks

[Archbob]

The stats for these units seem a bit off to me. Modern armor has the highest attack power in the game, greater than that of battleships. I think this should be changed because this simply does not reflect reality. Battlehips have huge 16-inch ships and Tomahawk Missles. They should be better than tanks at attacking, what do you guys think?

 

[BCLG100]

yeh but battleships have the best firepower on water where as modern armour has the best firepower on land and the only thing for a battleship to attack is other ships which have a lower defense value

 

[Maple]

Those are the flawed values of Firaxis. If you want better values, download one of the many mods in the completed mods section.

 

[The Last Conformist]

Naval and land attack and defense values don't really compare, since ground and sea units never fight against one another (unlike the situation in Civ2). For both kinds, the first unit has attack and defense of one (warrior and galley), and then it rises continually as you get better units.

Also, it's never clarified what each unit represents, but if we assume that a Battleship unit represents a single ship, and that a Modern Armour unit an entire division, then it would be rather understandable that the Modern Armour has the higher offensive potential. But as said, the comparition isn't really relevant, since the Battleship and the Modern Armour won't ever attack the same target.

 

[Archbob]

Can't battleships help coastside city bombardment? I've never gotten as far as battlehips in Civ III, usually can win before that.

 

[BCLG100]

yeh they can

 

[Zouave]

Originally posted by Maple
Those are the flawed values of Firaxis. If you want better values, download one of the many mods in the completed mods section.

Indeed.

The reason Firaxis' values are so stupid and non-historical is due to their far too low resource appearance rates. They skewed values of post-gunpowder units to give civs without a certain resource "a chance". They've admitted this stupidity.

EDIT. Or download some mods that make sense.

 

[The Last Conformist]

Originally posted by Fallen Angel Lord
Can't battleships help coastside city bombardment? I've never gotten as far as battlehips in Civ III, usually can win before that.

Sure they can. They can bombard improvements into oblivion and hurt land units too. But that only means that ground and naval bombarment strengths are comparable.

 

[Civddict]

battleships are great for bombarding resoruces, and improved tiles.