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Bede03: Rodina Rising: Civ3v1.29-Honorable Diety

Discussion in 'Civ3 - Succession Games' started by Bede, Oct 14, 2004.

  1. Bede

    Bede Chieftain

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    Bede01 saw the Romans conquer the world while Bede02 saw the Japanese hold firmly to their island, defeating all agressors, but the Chinese left the planet in 2018 before the Defiant Ronin could acquire oil.

    Bede03 is a straightforward Civ3 1.29 Diety attempt as the Russians. The only variant rule is the requirement to adhere to the Realms Beyond Civilization Honorable Tactics.

    For those who may be unfamiliar with the RBCiv Tactics:

    Evaluation of Tactics - compiled by Sirian

    Roster Full:

    Sir Bugsy
    denyd
    RowandLive
    Ankka
    Bede
    Hajime

    Order of go determined following opening moves discussion.

    Barbarians: SEDENTARY.
    Climate: NORMAL.
    LandForm: CONTINENTS.
    Map Size: SMALL.
    Ocean Coverage: 70%.
    Temperature: TEMPERATE.
    World Age: 4 BILLION YEARS.


    The Start


    Rivals:
    England - Exp/Comm; Alpha/Pottery
    Aztecs - Rel/Mil; Warrior/Ceremonial Burial
    America - Exp/Ind; Pottery/Mason
    Iroquois - Exp/Rel; Ceremonial Burial/Pottery
    Babylon - Sci/Rel; Bronze/Ceremonial Burial

     
  2. Hajime

    Hajime Chieftain

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  3. Bede

    Bede Chieftain

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    @Hajime

    :wavey:

    If you're comfortable at Emperor+, welcome.

    Just be warned, it's a rough, rowdy and obsessively analytical crowd you'd be joining.
     
  4. Hajime

    Hajime Chieftain

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    @Bede: So long as it's not AW, I'm more or less there now. Or SR without advice.
     
  5. Bede

    Bede Chieftain

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    Welcome aboard, Hajime.
     
  6. Hajime

    Hajime Chieftain

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    Thanks Bede! Borderline Emp/Deity player atm with the exception of AW - just depends on start loc.
     
  7. denyd

    denyd Emperor

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    Being that this is a diety game, I would choose what I consider to be the best start. To me that's either the 3 wheats on the river or the 2 cows. In either case unless we're shooting for a 20K type win (which is very difficult at diety) getting as much ground as possible ASAP is the most important goal. We'll never be able to out research the AI, but maybe with close to the even on cities we can produce enough troops to take out the weakest then expand some more, rinse and repeat.
     
  8. Bede

    Bede Chieftain

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    I incline to the three wheats myself as I don't think the cows have any water handy.

    The three wheat start also give us 8 shields at pop6 if I'm counting right (two BGs, a forest and the city center) along with beaucoup bread.

    (Rushes off to read Bamspeedy's Deity Settlers one more time).
     
  9. Hajime

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    My vote is for the 3 wheats.

    I'm having difficulty seeing the advantage of the two cow start after pop 3, due to no river.
     
  10. Ankka

    Ankka Chieftain

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    Checking in. :salute:

    I'd take the 3 wheats. All the others lack food for a 4-turn settler factory.
     
  11. Sir Bugsy

    Sir Bugsy Civ.D.

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    It has to be the three wheat. Bamspeedy's game is a perfect example for this one to follow. One of the first SGOTMs, before they were called SGOTM, had three teams playing Bamspeedy's map. Two teams did well, one team ran into all the standard problems. If I can find them, I'll post the links. Good reading as well.
     
  12. Bede

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    So it's allee, allee, all in for the Sign of the Three Shocks (should be a pub named that somewhere, Bugsy :beer: )



    Bede03E


    Rivals:
    England - Exp/Comm; Alpha/Pottery
    Aztecs - Rel/Mil; Warrior/Ceremonial Burial
    America - Exp/Ind; Pottery/Mason
    Iroquois - Exp/Rel; Ceremonial Burial/Pottery
    Babylon - Sci/Rel; Bronze/Ceremonial Burial

    Thoughts on the opening:
    Scout east to mountain, worker NW to riverside wheat, settle on spot. Build another scout, then start the granary?

    Looks like we need to find the Aztecs just as quick as we can so we have a counter party for the first round of tech trading. England has Alphabet as a monopoly and it looks like it is going to cost us Bronze Working, Warrior Code and a bucket of cash to get it. My thinking here is Alphabet to Mathematics (for cats) and starting denyd's rinse and repeat cycle for lebensraum with archers, cats and spears.

    Order of go suggestions:

    Sir Bugsy or denyd
    Ankka
    Bede
    Hajime
    denyd or Bugsy

    20 for kick off then 10. 24hr got it 48hr to play 72 total. Autoskip to next player on expiration of first 24. And please post a roster at the end of your turn log. (Keeps me from getting confused).

    Looks like fun or a furball! :crazyeye: :smug:
     
  13. Hajime

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    Care to put me in the last slot, Bede?

    Or care to swap slots with me?

    (Sorry...I dislike 4th quite a bit. It tends to put me in my weakest spot gameplay-wise.)
     
  14. Sir Bugsy

    Sir Bugsy Civ.D.

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    I'll take it. I think we'll have to make that the name of our capitol and first pub... The Sign of the Three Shocks. I hope we serve Harp and Sam Adams in our pub :beer:
     
  15. RowAndLive

    RowAndLive RAMMING SPEED!

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    Sorry for the late check in, gang. I was out of town today, and hadn't been able to check since 5PM yesterday. Fit me in in the middle to end of the roster. :)
     
  16. Bede

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    Gang's all here.

    Take it away Sir Bugsy

    Order of go:
    Sir Bugsy
    Ankka
    Hajime
    Bede
    denyd
    RowandLive
     
  17. Sir Bugsy

    Sir Bugsy Civ.D.

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    4000 BC – Move the worker west and the scout east to the mountain. We’re in the northern portion of the landmass with ocean NW and NE. Three Shocks is founded in place. I know this is going to disappoint a lot of people, but we’ll get a cow on expansion. Start Alphabet @ max. Start a scout.

    Early – Find that there is incense SE of Three Shocks. Meet England. Liz is up Alphabet. Alpha for BW & 10G is doubt it. She has two cities. Pop a hut, but it deserted.
    Build three scouts and start a granary.

    Middle - Find we have a nice choke between England and all us vodka drinkers.

    Late – More exploring, lots of jungle to the south.

    After Action – We have three scouts out exploring. Granary is due in three. We will be able to crank out some settlers and workers. We’ll need a lot of the latter to clear that %^&*#($ jungle. Here’s a shot of our lands:


    Save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Bede3,_3000_BC.SAV
     
  18. Bede

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    Good grief, it's a Beef 'n Brew. And a nice tidy litle corner all to us Russians.

    Order of go:
    Ankka - up
    Hajime - on deck
    Bede - needs a drink
    denyd
    RowandLive
    Sir Bugsy - opened the bar for business
     
  19. denyd

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    Nice start Bugs.

    Last is a good spot for me with being up in JumpMasters and wanting to get GOTM 36 off to a good start.

    Might be a good idea to plant a scout on the choke point until we can get a settler there and that should be one of the first ones we build.
     
  20. Hajime

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    Agreed on the scout in the choke point.

    However, do we have any chance of getting that silk via city? Or we will just war militarily to take the silk point from the CPU? (Is the latter a better idea in this case, as corruption would pretty much destroy the silk city early game?)
     

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