Beta Gauntlet One

[mutax2003]

I think it would be better if you guys post a standard map of year 4000BC, and everyone would need to download that to compete. It would be more fair since all would start off on a same footing, and would make for interesting strategy discussions afterward. Even though you specify that all map should be standard, but not all maps are equal, some are more equal than others. Just my two cents, let me know what you think.

 

[Dianthus]

I think it would be better if you guys post a standard map of year 4000BC, and everyone would need to download that to compete. It would be more fair since all would start off on a same footing, and would make for interesting strategy discussions afterward. Even though you specify that all map should be standard, but not all maps are equal, some are more equal than others. Just my two cents, let me know what you think.

I understand where you're coming from mutax2003, but what you're describing is GOTM, not HOF!

 

[Shillen]

The great thing about the HoF is you can keep trying similar games to beat your old score/date. If there was one standard map then you would only be able to play it once and that's that.

 

[Dianthus]

We *are* in a slightly different position to the Civ3 HOF though. With the Civ3 HOF, while everyone played different maps, high quality starts were available to all via the use of mapfinder.

 

[Smirk]

Yeah I need some help on that, I've played Civ3 so long Civ4 boils my blood. I have to reselect just about EVERYTHING on a custom game. I spent 2 hours playing last night, and I saw a total of 4-6 maps (played a few for 15-30 minutes).

Anyone know if thats modable to save the settings inbetween games?

 

[Shillen]

But in civ4 doing well is less dependent on the map type than it was in civ3. There's no more milking until 2050AD. Number of tiles is completely meaningless as score is based on % of tiles you own. Population also seems to be based on a % of the maximum possible on the particular map you're playing on. So I don't think there's need for a program like mapfinder in civ4. Some starting areas are better than others for sure, but you can figure out if you got a good starting area in the first 30 turns of the game.

I also find it very annoying that it doesn't remember your settings from one game to the next, though.

 

[Craterus22]

I love the idea of a gauntlet challenge for the HOF (and of course the gotm)... any chance that we can have a smaller map gauntlet while we are waiting for performance improvements?

 

[Chef]

I finished a Gauntlet game yesterday. I was playing as Asoka against 4 Gandhis.

Should I bother submitting it?

 

[jar2574]

I finished a Gauntlet game yesterday. I was playing as Asoka against 4 Gandhis.

Should I bother submitting it?

Sure, why not?

I think I read a prohibition on ex post facto rules in the Civ Fanatic Consitution.

Or else I need to get back to studying for my exams.

 

[Shadarr]

I also find it very annoying that it doesn't remember your settings from one game to the next, though.

It would be really nice if they were saved in a text file. Then things like the Gauntlet could just have a setup file that includes all the settings. Probably wouldn't be enforcable as a requirement but it would certainly make starting the game quicker.

 

[jeremiahrounds]

speaking of milking in the game i submitted im about 15 turns from 4 wonders. Which leads to a couple of questions:
1) if you keep playing after you win does that change your submitted date?
2) if you keep playing after you win does that change your win score?
3) can i resubmit the same game or is the first submit the final one for that line?

Im sure these questions are in a faq somewhere.

 

[EL_OSO]

I noticed that there are only 2 approved mods that can be used with the HOF submission.

I currently have a couple of python scripts installed that would violate the spirit of this, however I feel they are completely harmless as far as mods go.

One of the mods is homegrown's clock mod. All it does is display the current time, time elapsed, and the year simultaneously.

The other mod is low's random map generator script found here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=143597

I really don't want to have to uninstall the clock mod but I can use one of the default scripts to generate a map. The clock mod isn't any different than using Blue Marble as far as I'm concerned as it's purely cosmetic.

 

[superslug]

I love the idea of a gauntlet challenge for the HOF (and of course the gotm)... any chance that we can have a smaller map gauntlet while we are waiting for performance improvements?

Not at this time, though with that in mind we may run the January gauntlet on a smaller mapsize.

I finished a Gauntlet game yesterday. I was playing as Asoka against 4 Gandhis.

Should I bother submitting it?

If you like, we'll still take it.

This is a strong reason for the Beta HOF before the permanent. We have a chance to develop a thorough ruleset before we start the real one. Otherwise, we'd have to go back through all the old games every time a rule changed and remove them from the tables.

I think I read a prohibition on ex post facto rules in the Civ Fanatic Consitution.

I try to be a helpful and friendly staff person, but I should point out for the record that the Hall of Fame is technically a dictatorship.

It would be really nice if they were saved in a text file. Then things like the Gauntlet could just have a setup file that includes all the settings. Probably wouldn't be enforcable as a requirement but it would certainly make starting the game quicker.

We can always hope this will get addressed in a future patch.

speaking of milking in the game i submitted im about 15 turns from 4 wonders. Which leads to a couple of questions:
1) if you keep playing after you win does that change your submitted date?
2) if you keep playing after you win does that change your win score?
3) can i resubmit the same game or is the first submit the final one for that line?

You have to submit the turn after the first win, and you can only play and submit a map once. I'll clarify this further in the rules.

 

[superslug]

I noticed that there are only 2 approved mods that can be used with the HOF submission.

I'm going to soon open a thread dedicated to mod approval requests. If you post there, we'll consider them.

EDIT: I've put one on the consideration list, but need the thread on the other.

 

[dibujante]

Gah! I got a space race victory in 1927 but only after losing to Bismarck, reloading ten turns prior, building an extra workshop and then winning (yes, the margin was that close). Then I read the rules

Aside from that, thanks for bringing the gauntlet to Civ 4!

 

[ackum]

Um...OK, I didn't realize until now you couldn't go back to old save games and replay from earlier turns. Thing is, I'm really close to a victory now but honestly I don't remember if I've done this or not. I don't believe I have. Is there a way of analyzing the save file to figure this out?

I'd hate to keep wasting time with it if it's going to be invalid.

 

[Drogear]

First time I played any HOF games. I think its a great idee to spice up the game giving it some purpuse. Played as ghandi and finsihed the space race in 1890. Perhaps giving it another go if I find the time.

 

[Shillen]

Do you want us to submit each attempt we finish as we finish them or do you want us to make all our attempts and submit the best one only?

 

[DaveMcW]

I don't think the number of submissions matters. Maybe if you take places 1-10 they will limit your results...

 

[Shillen]

I was merely asking for preference. I'd assume if I just submit my best attempt then it would be easier on the staff. But there might be a reason to submit them all that I don't know about.