Bts Barbarian Galleys

[Elite Hoplite]

Hi, u guys seen much barb galleys in game? Do they ever appear or are they rare?

 

[morchuflex]

I see lots of them in BTS. Way too many, in fact (at least with raging barbs ON).

 

[Soneji]

Yeah, never with anything in them though... but they like to mess about with my fishing industry.

 

[MrCynical]

They do appear, but never carry any units. They're a minor annoyance due to their pillaging of fishing boats, but are otherwise unimportant.

 

[RockTheCazbah87]

MrCynical summarised it perfectly. They're just generally annoying.

 

[Slobadog]

I've seen barbs use galleys to land troops from across a small sea.

 

[SwordofStriker]

I've only seen the galleys (and often I might add) but haven't seen them land troops since Civ II, although I never played Civ III, but you get the idea.

 

[morchuflex]

MrCynical summarised it perfectly. They're just generally annoying.

That's a bit of an understatement. If your empire is largely dependent on seafood (which is quite common on archipelago maps), and an early barb galley destroys 4 workboats before you can even bring or whip a galley (or do so, but lose the fight), then you can pretty much start a new game.

 

[Zongo]

I agree with Morchuflex on the pain that barbarian galleys can inflict. They are the first reason to build a fleet of your own on water-heavy maps.

Then, and only then, you can send a lonely ship around your continent for a head start on the "circumnavigation bunus", which you will clinch with your first caravel.

Futhermore notice that the Great Wall, while keeping barbarian land units out of your border, does nothing on barbarian galleys but stimulating turism.
Imagine a coastal barbarian city sitting just outside of your Big Fence. Now go in and check the building queue. Yes, that's a galley, on a "repeat building" directive...

 

[Carabodes]

They do appear, but never carry any units. They're a minor annoyance due to their pillaging of fishing boats, but are otherwise unimportant.

They do carry units, but if you have GW, the units will not be able to land. In most of my games I've seen barbs landing units from galleys. Mostly I play islands maps, so if I have the GW, it's only efficient on my main island, and any smaller islands I colonize have been under frequent attacks from barbs coming off galleys. I them.

 

[Elite Hoplite]

I barely see barb galleys are cities or units. If i see developed cities or a galley i get excited cos its so rare. It would be cool if barbs landed from galleys. On one occation is saw about 5 spearman grouping around my AIs border doing nothing.

 

[kazapp]

MrCynical summarised it perfectly. They're just generally annoying.

Like all barbarian units, you mean?

Just like you shouldn't build a Worker without a military escort, you now shouldn't build a Working Boat without one. I think it's great that no longer is seafood resources immune to barbarian pillaging.

 

[kazapp]

Mostly I play islands maps, so if I have the GW

Why build the Great Wall on an island starting point, when it would be easier to just use a few fogbusters? And why build it if it won't help but a few of your cities?

(Assuming you don't play on such an easy setting you can afford the GW regardless)

 

[shadyforce]

Oh, for the old days of civnet where barb galleys showed up sporting a few bothersome horsemen or legions along with a barbarian leader who looked like a diplomat who provided a nice bounty upon capture.

 

[Carabodes]

Why build the Great Wall on an island starting point, when it would be easier to just use a few fogbusters? And why build it if it won't help but a few of your cities?

(Assuming you don't play on such an easy setting you can afford the GW regardless)

I'm a very timid viking who like to win all the time, so yes, easy setting , and I'm not even ashamed of it. (There's only one problem with that: I have nobody to trade techs with, but everybody wants what I have.)

GW on island? Well WONDERS, I'm an addict. And I also like to prevent anybody else from getting anything good, like a great spy. And combined with the castlequest, the GW is not bad.
Edit: And I saif if I have the GW.

Apart from that? Once in awhile I do take the game seriously, drop the wonders, up the difficulty and start fighting, but I must admit I like better just to lean back, build and have fun. Warmongering seems to be a bit more like work and not so much fun (sometimes it is rather fun, though).