Difference between religious beliefs and superstitions?

[Cheetah]

Is there any difference between religious beliefs and superstitions? If so, what?

And how do you look at christians, muslims, hindus, etc. compared to people who believe in ghosts, trolls and thootfairies?

 

[puglover]

Religious beliefs can be founded or unfounded. Superstitions are always blind.

 

[Xanikk999]

Hmm thats a good question without an easy answer.

The way i see it, any organized religions that sets definite limits on the universe and an afterlife or heaven is just as silly as superstition.

Its unkowable so why make stuff up to suit your needs?

 

[Xanikk999]

Religious beliefs can be founded or unfounded. Superstitions are always blind.

Noahs arc and heaven and hell seem just as unfounded as any superstitions i know of...

 

[GenMarshall]

Noahs arc and heaven and hell seem just as unfounded as any superstitions i know of...

Thats cause you're a non-believer

 

[puglover]

Noahs arc and heaven and hell seem just as unfounded as any superstitions i know of...

I said they can be founded or unfounded. And while we're on the subject, I believe in Noah's ark and the afterlife because I trust the one who told us they exist. Not everything about a religion has to be seen specifically to be founded, but God has been evidenced to me to be true, and I'll take his word on such matters of faith.

 

[Perfectionist]

The level of organization.

 

[GenMarshall]

I said they can be founded or unfounded. And while we're on the subject, I believe in Noah's ark and the afterlife because I trust the one who told us they exist. Not everything about a religion has to be seen specifically to be founded, but God has been evidenced to me to be true, and I'll take his word on such matters of faith.

Somehow, I agree with you Puglover. I place my faith in God of these truths.

 

[Riesstiu IV]

One group wears tin foil hats while the other group wears cloth and silk hats.

 

[Perfectionist]

I said they can be founded or unfounded. And while we're on the subject, I believe in Noah's ark and the afterlife because I trust the one who told us they exist. Not everything about a religion has to be seen specifically to be founded, but God has been evidenced to me to be true, and I'll take his word on such matters of faith.

Evidenced how? And if I told you that God is speaking through me, would you believe me?

 

[puglover]

Evidenced how? And if I told you that God is speaking through me, would you believe me?

I see God in the morals of man, and the virtues shared throughout all of history regardless of culture. I believe love itself speaks for God's existence, and I believe the prophecies accurately foretold his life hundreds of years before his birth. I believe reason proves God as well, and the fact that man can think and view himself abstractly. I have faith in God, for I cannot see him, but reason leads me to my faith. I cannot see God, but I have found him.

Somehow, I agree with you Puglover. I place my faith in God of these truths.

Somehow? CivGeneral, I think we agree on far more than you think.

 

[Perfectionist]

I see God in the morals of man, and the virtues shared throughout all of history regardless of culture. I believe love itself speaks for God's existence, and I believe the prophecies accurately foretold his life hundreds of years before his birth. I believe reason proves God as well, and the fact that man can think and view himself abstractly. I have faith in God, for I cannot see him, but reason leads me to my faith. I cannot see God, but I have found him.

Curious, because I see natural selection at work. The things that you have mentioned do not show the existance of god. And how exactly does reason prove god?

 

[Ansar]

One group wears tin foil hats while the other group wears cloth and silk hats.

Very funny. But who wears tinfoil hats?

 

[nc-1701]

The level of organization.

QTF! That is the only differance between the two.

 

[puglover]

Curious, because I see natural selection at work. The things that you have mentioned do not show the existance of god. And how exactly does reason prove god?

"I think, therefore I am"

Self-awareness and reasoned thought speaks to something beyond material and chemical processes. There is another part of existence that is uncalled for in a completely secular worldview, and Christian theology fits through reason as well as faith.

 

[Perfectionist]

"I think, therefore I am"

Self-awareness and reasoned thought speaks to something beyond material and chemical processes. There is another part of existence that is uncalled for in a completely secular worldview, and Christian theology fits through reason as well as faith.

No, it doesn't. Thought can be explained as a chemical process. No god is necesary. And cogito ego sum does not in any way prove that god exists. It is an attempt to show that self existence can be proved, even if you doubt everything. To your last point: While a clockmaker god is not conclusively ruled out by reason, the specific Christian theology is ruled out. The flood, miracles, divine retribution, Jesus' resurrection, creation: all have been demonstrated to be impossible by reason.

 

[GenMarshall]

No, it doesn't.

Youre sadly wrong. Christian theology fits through reason as well as faith.

While a clockmaker god is not conclusively ruled out by reason, the specific Christian theology is ruled out. The flood, miracles, divine retribution, Jesus' resurrection, creation: all have been demonstrated to be impossible by reason.

Again, you are wrong. Specific Christian theology is not ruled out by reason. The specifics I am refering to are miricales, divine retribution, Jesus's resurrection, and creation (The flood that I will accept as an overexaguration of a local even since there are other flood stories from around the world).

 

[Perfectionist]

Sorry? How exactly do miracles fit in with a rational universe? The same goes for creation, divine retribution, all of it. In fact, I have a better question. If you were not aware of Christian theology, how could you possibly have deduced it? The two aspects of a rational worldview are deduction and experimentation. Experimentation is ruled out in this instance, so you would have to rely on deduction to prove Christian theology. And if Christian theology is proved by reason, you should be able to do so.

 

[nihilistic]

Religious beliefs can be founded or unfounded. Superstitions are always blind.

Founded, for example, on superstitions?

 

[puglover]

Founded, for example, on superstitions?

Most of the time, but some religions are founded on actual human reason, and are intellectually supportable.

No, it doesn't. Thought can be explained as a chemical process. No god is necesary. And cogito ego sum does not in any way prove that god exists. It is an attempt to show that self existence can be proved, even if you doubt everything. To your last point: While a clockmaker god is not conclusively ruled out by reason, the specific Christian theology is ruled out. The flood, miracles, divine retribution, Jesus' resurrection, creation: all have been demonstrated to be impossible by reason.

Thought can be explained by chemicals, but some aspects of human thought are not shared with animals. Why? How do you explain the gap between natural selection and free thought, self-awareness and chemical processes?

And about your second point, the supernatural events in the Bible can't be proven of course. But they can't be refuted either.