Doing the Sums

dalgo

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I seem to get in this situation a lot - trying to predict where I'll be in five or ten turns and what I need to do to get there.

In my current game as the Iroquois (a very tight game at Demigod) my Golden Age started one turn after I made an alliance with the Byzantines against the Greeks. That alliance now has 8 turns to run, Invention is due in 9 turns and my pre-build for Leonardos will also complete in 9 turns.

My question of course is - will my Golden Age finish before or after I get Invention? I am just a bit worried that the Palace could complete before I get the option to switch it to Leonardo, which will be my first wonder in the game.

Sun Tzu has been built so there is no possible cascade and no-one else has Invention yet. In actual fact it may even be better if some other civs learn it before me to bring down the cost.

An added complication is that my alliance includes the incense that Theodora paid me to declare on the Greeks. My major cities are right on the happiness balance line so losing that lux could also affect the equation.
 
Just switch a few of your citizens to tiles with fewer shields, or even to science or tax.

Worst case, it doesn't take workers very long to replace mines with irrigation, then switch back to mines when it makes sense.
 
I seem to get in this situation a lot - trying to predict where I'll be in five or ten turns and what I need to do to get there.

In my current game as the Iroquois (a very tight game at Demigod) my Golden Age started one turn after I made an alliance with the Byzantines against the Greeks. That alliance now has 8 turns to run, Invention is due in 9 turns and my pre-build for Leonardos will also complete in 9 turns.

My question of course is - will my Golden Age finish before or after I get Invention? I am just a bit worried that the Palace could complete before I get the option to switch it to Leonardo, which will be my first wonder in the game.

Sun Tzu has been built so there is no possible cascade and no-one else has Invention yet. In actual fact it may even be better if some other civs learn it before me to bring down the cost.

An added complication is that my alliance includes the incense that Theodora paid me to declare on the Greeks. My major cities are right on the happiness balance line so losing that lux could also affect the equation.
This is my guess here:
You get 3 messages after turn 9, before turn 10: you completed the palace, you got invention and your GA has ended.
You finish the palace after turn 9, so before you can switch. In turn 10 you should do the finishing, so you can switch production.

I think you have to slow down your palace with one turn, so you can switch in turn 10.
 
This is my guess here:
You get 3 messages after turn 9, before turn 10: you completed the palace, you got invention and your GA has ended.

You are quite correct about those three messages but they came in a slightly different order. I held my nerve and kept research at 100% and the first message I got was that I had researched Invention. At that point I chose the 'what's the big picture' option and changed from Palace to Leonardo's just in time. It was the next turn that my GA ended.

I was the first civ on my continent to learn Invention so I was sure I had the wonder in the bag. Unfortunately I was wrong. Because I was focused so completely on my own development and that of the civs I could see on the trading screen I completely overlooked the civs I hadn't yet met. Leonardo's Worksshp was built by a civ on the second continent. :mad:
 
You are quite correct about those three messages but they came in a slightly different order. I held my nerve and kept research at 100% and the first message I got was that I had researched Invention. At that point I chose the 'what's the big picture' option and changed from Palace to Leonardo's just in time. It was the next turn that my GA ended.

I was the first civ on my continent to learn Invention so I was sure I had the wonder in the bag. Unfortunately I was wrong. Because I was focused so completely on my own development and that of the civs I could see on the trading screen I completely overlooked the civs I hadn't yet met. Leonardo's Worksshp was built by a civ on the second continent. :mad:
So did you do completion after turn 10??
 
No the Palace did not complete because I switched it to Leonardos just in time. However Leonardo needed 300 more shields than the Palace and someone else beat me to it.
 
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