dwarven assasinn?

[daladinn]

where did they go? why?

 

[Grey Fox]

I haven't checked, but were they removed? Then shame

 

[daladinn]

yep gone , my favorite khazad strat (econ) completely wiped by removing the only viable midgame unit. ahh well, its bad enough that my dwarfs decided to always migrate to the coast , lol.

 

[Vatras]

I had dwarven assassins with the Luchiurp at least.

There was a funny thing with shadows, though. I looked them up in the pedia, because I could not build/upgrade one, and found out, they require Council of Esus. So far, so well. Then I conquered a city on an island (Illian capital), and in this city, which does not have Council of Esus (especially after my inquisitors), I could build shadows.

If someone can clarify this for me, please do, as I like my shadows, but not the Council

 

[SwordofStriker]

I had dwarven assassins with the Luchiurp at least.

There was a funny thing with shadows, though. I looked them up in the pedia, because I could not build/upgrade one, and found out, they require Council of Esus. So far, so well. Then I conquered a city on an island (Illian capital), and in this city, which does not have Council of Esus (especially after my inquisitors), I could build shadows.

If someone can clarify this for me, please do, as I like my shadows, but not the Council

I was under the impression that you could not see if a city had one of the hidden religions unless you happened to be a member of said religion. If that's right, then your city might have the religion necessary, which would let you build the shadows.

 

[Ekolite]

Im pretty sure you can see coe in our own cities even when you're a different religion.

 

[Thennorin]

Accidental double-post.

 

[Thennorin]

Then I conquered a city on an island (Illian capital), and in this city, which does not have Council of Esus (especially after my inquisitors), I could build shadows.

Maybe the inquisitor function doesn't remove the new Shadow religions? Or maybe it's just missing CoE since it's a "hidden" religion. It sounds like one of the two.

Edit: Yep, it looks like it's missing the new religions. Line 984, func spellInquisition, file CvSpellInterface.py:

	iRnd = CyGame().getSorenRandNum(4, "Bob")
	if StateBelief == gc.getInfoTypeForString('RELIGION_THE_ORDER'):
		iRnd = iRnd - 1
	for iTarget in range(gc.getNumReligionInfos()):

So, the new religions at the upper end of the religions array are missed, I assume. I wish I had a Civ IV SDK reference so I could verify what getNumReligionInfos does... Anyway, I'll put it in the bug thread so it gets fixed.