Earth Map

[tSlater]

Hmm.. a few questions about the Earth Map and such.. (and a few comments which aren't really intended to be questions.)

I keep reading about French being placed in South America and such.. and last time I played the Earth Map the French started in Japan.. but the manual says that when playing the Earth Map the civilizations are placed approximately where they were in actual history.. riiiight..

Here's a question, although this particular question isn't really CivI related SPECIFICALLY.. rather it's related with comparison. I've noticed that the CivI PC and the CivI SNES Earth Maps are quite different. The PC version seems to have more land.. but is lacking much of the Pacific Ocean. (That sucks.. I just love building a small city on Hawaii and stationing all of my nukes there so I can easilly nuke the Americas..) Although the PC version does have the Phillippines.. and Japan is actually an island and not some funny penninsula off Korea =P ANYWAY.. I swear I remember seeing an Earth Map which was much larger.. inluding islands in the Mediterranean and such.. but it doesn't seem to be for the PC version.. maybe CivII or CivIII?? I can't find any Earth Map screenshots or whatever for those games though at this site, and I swear I remember seeing it at this site too.. oh well.

Is it possible to be randomly placed in Australia? If so, is there any way to increase the chances of this? =P

And lastly.. where do you all feel is the best place to be on the Earth Map.. I've only played India and Babylon on the Earth Map.. and both times I have successfully colonized Australia with very little interference from other civilizations. Then from there I move up into Indonesia and turn all of that Jungle into grass and build prospering cities there..

 

[Irish Caesar]

A civilization only starts away from its correct position when the civilization of the same color is destroyed, so the French could start in S. America if the Germans (who started in Germany) were completely killed.

You, as the player, cannot start in Australia.

I like to start as the Aztecs for a high scoring game or the French for a hard fight.

 

[Marx]

Only starting civs (at 4000 bc) are historically placed. Restarted civs will start on places where there is space for them (For example at Australia (or Japan)

 

[Marx]

My favourite starting Civs on the Earthmap:

Aztecs or Americans (Verry little oponents on the same continent.

And in the past I played a lot games with the Russians.

 

[dunk]

I never do well as the Americans or Aztecs on the Earth map. I need to knock some heads early or I fall behind. Maybe I need to build more cities early on.

 

[tSlater]

I usually find that building many cities definately helps. The only time I've played as America (haven't tried Aztec on Earth yet) on the Earth map I tried to expand down towards Central America, concentrate defensive forces down there, then expand upwards and concentrate on Science. I lost a city early on to barbarians (3rd city) which kind of kept me away from settling the northwest (barbarians took a city on the Alaskan coast) and it hindered my growth slightly, and then I was concentrating too hard on defending against the Aztecs instead of taking back the city from the Barbarians and continuing growth. I started the game as the most advaned civilization, and ended the game as the least advanced, and smallest civ. (out of 4. The Mongols took out everyone else..) I think last I played that game, I was about to lose my heavilly defended city atop a mountain with Barracks and city walls which is essential for land units to move from South America to North Ameria and vise-versa. =\ (That was King Difficulty)

 

[tSlater]

Originally posted by Marx
Only starting civs (at 4000 bc) are historically placed. Restarted civs will start on places where there is space for them (For example at Australia (or Japan)

restarted civs?? *newbie-ness begins to show through again*

what the hey is a restarted civ? I can only assume what it might be, but I've never enountered what I'm assuming it is, so what is a "restarting civ?"

 

[dunk]

Originally posted by tSlater


restarted civs?? *newbie-ness begins to show through again*

what the hey is a restarted civ? I can only assume what it might be, but I've never enountered what I'm assuming it is, so what is a "restarting civ?"

A restarted civ is a civ that starts when another is eliminated.

For example...

If your game has the Romans (white color) and they are eliminated before a certain year, the Russians (also white in color) may appear somewhere on the map as a new civ.

 

[dunk]

Originally posted by tSlater
I usually find that building many cities definately helps. The only time I've played as America (haven't tried Aztec on Earth yet) on the Earth map I tried to expand down towards Central America, concentrate defensive forces down there, then expand upwards and concentrate on Science. I lost a city early on to barbarians (3rd city) which kind of kept me away from settling the northwest (barbarians took a city on the Alaskan coast) and it hindered my growth slightly, and then I was concentrating too hard on defending against the Aztecs instead of taking back the city from the Barbarians and continuing growth. I started the game as the most advaned civilization, and ended the game as the least advanced, and smallest civ. (out of 4. The Mongols took out everyone else..) I think last I played that game, I was about to lose my heavilly defended city atop a mountain with Barracks and city walls which is essential for land units to move from South America to North Ameria and vise-versa. =\ (That was King Difficulty)

That happens to me too. When I start in the Americas, I am usually behind in technology. I'll send a sail unit with 3 diplomats on it to Europe and find French tanks.

 

[tSlater]

lol, and usually when playing as a civ other than America or Aztec, America always seems to be the most advanced with technology =P

And as for the restarting civ.. that explains why in one game I played, Greece destroyed Mongolia and then India soon afterwards..

 

[Marx]

Hmm when I play a game on the earth map and I play with a civilization on the Main continent (Europe, Asia, Africa) and the Aztecs and the American are together on the other continent the Aztecs almost always become more powerfull than the American

 

[tSlater]

huh.. it's always the Americans for me..