I now play D and D+1 only. 4 to 7 Civs, full barbs. I do Despot, Monarchy, SOLiberty, Fundy, Demo, Fundy until about 1700 AD, then Demo or Fundy depending upon Happiness. The Civ's keep up. No matter what....... i am bored by their cheats and losing interest in the game......looking around - this seems to be a phase. So, if it is a phase....how many moons must i endure this?