Hero Design

[Civmansam]

This thread is for Hero design.

I want heros to be a huge part of Star Wars Mod because they are a huge part of the movies and such. So they will make a difference in the battle field and in the game. Personally I like each one to have an ability, and be unique. The first hero I'm thinking about is obviously the hero that the movies are pretty much centered around, Anakin Skywalker

Anakin Skywalker
World Unit
Jedi Unit

Special Ability: Rage, Every turn he gets a random chance that he will get the promotion rage, which increases his strength and movement but also makes him a barbarian for that turn.

Upgrade Tree:

Anni Skywalker (Child, in first movie)
Anakin Skywalker (Padawan in 2nd movie)
Master Skywalker (Knight in 3rd movie)
Darth Vader (Sith 4th 5th 6th movie)

I've been debating if I should make him only buildable by the senate or by anyone, and how to simulate his fall to the dark side. Anyone have suggesitions?

 

[Qdin]

Hmm... I personally think that we should come up with a Hero for everyone their special hero - and then of course they should all have different merrits and flaws against each other. Luke should have a great bonus against Vader, but not the other stages

 

[Civmansam]

Hmm... I personally think that we should come up with a Hero for everyone their special hero - and then of course they should all have different merrits and flaws against each other. Luke should have a great bonus against Vader, but not the other stages

I agree, I am planning for each Civ to have a hero. Anakin is the only hero that 2 civs can get, which is why I put him there.

 

[thomas.berubeg]

Is this a FFh type hero system?

 

[s.c.dude]

I agree, I am planning for each Civ to have a hero. Anakin is the only hero that 2 civs can get, which is why I put him there.

i remember seeing a vader unit somewhere. . . . .

 

[Qdin]

probably - I think I saw it on Filefront some time ago.

 

[s.c.dude]

found it just doesnt have sounds http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=174676&highlight=vader

 

[Macha]

u said u have a jedi mod but it isnt in .65

 

[Kissamies]

Some ideas for various heroes... just tossing them around. Look the names up in SW Wiki if you don't know them.

Old Republic: Some Jedi. Nomi Sunrider would probably be best. Bastila was originally supposed to be her daughter Vima in KotOR. Ability: Battle meditation.
Mandalorians: Any Mandalore not used as leader. Boba Fett is a strong bet.
CIS: Asajj Ventress unless you drop Dooku or Grievous off the leader status to make a hero.
Sith Empire: Lots of choices here. Exar Kun or Darth Bane, for example. Ability depends on who it is exactly.
Rebels: Luke Skywalker, no doubt. Levels:
1. ANH farmboy
2. ESB Commander Skywalker
3. RotJ Jedi
4. Later era EU style Jedi Master
Wookies: Chewie, I think... or some hero of Wookie legend.
Chiss Ascendancy: Thrawn with some sort of tactics based special ability (Levels would go to Chiss Expansionary fleet Force Commander to Grand Admiral), or Jagged Fel
Black Sun: Guri, that lovely Human replica droid. Probably some sort of infiltration based special ability.
New Republic: I'd go for one of the Solo kids. Anakin Solo, maybe.
Imperial Remnant: This is stretching it quite a bit, but Baron Soontir Fel is cool, even though he wasn't around any more by the time the Empire shrunk to Remnant.
Yuuzhan Vong: Warmaster Tsavong Lah, probably... unless you want to go for the sneaky Nom Anor.

Heroes for civs I have suggested:
Xim's Empire: Don't know. Someone with something to do with Genoharadan, perhaps.
CSA: Tough one. Probably Fiolla. Edit: No, Gallandro.
Zsinj's Empire: General Melvar or Gethzerion.
Hapes Consortium: Tenel Ka is pretty much the only viable choice.
Galactic Alliance: Lots of options. Might go for the Solo kids again. Jacen this time, but he's turning evil. Hmm...
Corellians: Han Solo or Wedge Antilles.

 

[Sovin nai]

For the Chiss, Thrawn wasn't really considered Chiss after he left and joined the Imperials. Baron Soontir Fel would be a better choice than Jagged Fel. Jag was more of a New Republic hero, and would have stayed there, had the war gone on longer. But, if the Baron is a leader, then Jag could be a hero.

The Imperial Remnant will probably be part of the Empire in general, plus Baron Soontir Fel left them Imperials long before the Empire became a remnant.

The Vong should have Tsavong Lah, or Nom Anor, I agree. Maybe even Nas Choka.

For Hapes, Tenel Ka became the queen mother, so she wouldn't be a good choice for a hero. I dunno who would be though.

The Galactic Alliance should have Jag, Jaina or Jacen. Maybe even a "Twin Suns Squadron" unit. That would work better.

For the Corporate Sector Authority, Fiolla would be better than Gallandro, because I'm pretty sure that Gallandro was just a hired gun, albeit a good one, until he got into a grudge with Solo. But he would work too.

 

[Kissamies]

Not sure if we are even going for this hero thing anymore, but the names will be useful for great people anyways...

I suggested Thrawn for Chiss mainly because of recognizability.

I would suggest someone else for Hapans, but as I said, Tenel Ka seems to be only one really viable.

I'd definitely go for Gallandro for CSA. I don't remember those books exactly, but I seem to remember that he was sort of settling down and some sort of manager in CSA hierachy, but I might remember it wrong. Nevertheless, there is the coolness factor. Gallandro is cool.

 

[WGW]

i think we still can use the heroes.
each civilization has its own hero?
perhaps get it in the begining and give it free promotions by techs so it will keep it up in power?

 

[Sovin nai]

Yes, about Thrawn and all, but he is more recognizable with the Imperials, than anything else.
With Tenel Ka, you could use her mother as the Queen Mother, I guess. Or you could use her father as the hero. I seem to remember that he doesn't have any administrative power, other than his image.
Gallandro works, I guess. No reason not too, anyway.

 

[Qdin]

I have NO idea what those are you are talking about..

Is it possible to make this mod for people NOT name-nerdy so we've got an idea of what's going on? XD

 

[Sovin nai]

Some of the names have to come from the books and other non-movie material no matter what. If some people don't know who people are, well, that's what the Civilopedia is for. Just look in wikipedia.

 

[WGW]

ofcours the player wouldnt know all the name's
only if he is so much fan of SW he could know it.
but by this way he can increas his knowleg of SW ^.^
and i dont knew all the units in civ 4 to