BigBirdZ28
Fundamentalist in a Z28
My opionion :
I believe its the embodiment of the peace process
"WTH ? Arnt we supposed to be making peace ?"
History programs in Abu-Dubi
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My opionion :
I believe its the embodiment of the peace process
"WTH ? Arnt we supposed to be making peace ?"
Blackadder
Rooted to the spot
So this is what it said:
Abu Dhabi TV hits hard at Sharon in its 'Irhabiat'
Israel is threatening to lodge a "severe complaint" at the United Nations against the station
November 19, 2001, 09:40 AM
ABU DHABI (Agencies)
- Abu Dhabi television was able to irritate the State of Israel at the highest level by portraying Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon as a vampire in an Arabic satire show it broadcasted earlier this week.
Ariel Sharon is hit at again for his deeds
Highlights of the program, originally called "Sharonades" but re-titled "Terrorisms" or "Irhabiat" in Arabic, have been broadcast by Israel's second private network and ignited allegations by Israel claiming the program of anti-Semitism, which is the accusation that Israeli politicians have overused in the past years whenever they plan a media attack on any subject.
And now Israel is threatening to lodge a "severe complaint" at the United Nations on Monday, according to Israel's cabinet secretary Gideon Saar. On Sunday, Abu Dhabi TV hit back at Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres for his scathing criticism of the show. "It seems Peres has no sense of humor," Abu Dhabi Television and Radio Director Ismail Abdullah told the official Emirates news agency WAM.
"Instead of shooting the messenger, Israel has to take a serious look at its policies and stop shooting at and killing Palestinians," he said.
Peres dubbed as "sickening" the program, which depicts Prime Minister Ariel Sharon as a bloodthirsty vampire.
Peres told the Israeli Army Radio Sunday that Abu Dhabi TV has sunk to a base level of anti-Jewishness.
"I am sickened. This reveals the appalling level of this television channel," Peres said.
The daily satire has been aired by state-run Abu Dhabi satellite channel since the start of the Muslim holy fasting month of Ramadan on Friday. It is due to run for 30 episodes.
Kuwaiti comedian Dawood Hussein who stars in the show has vowed to use the "weapon of satire" to fight Israel's aggressive policies towards Palestinian civilians.
"Satire is the weapon I will not renounce and through which I will show people the barbarity of the Zionist entity," he said.
Kuwaiti comedian Dawood Hussein
Hussein, as Sharon, waves a bottle filled with the blood of Arab children, delighted he will be able to quench his thirst.
Another scene shows a vampire sucking blood from the neck of Sharon's character and immediately collapsing dead from an infection.
Sharon was held responsible by an Israeli committee for the slaughter of more than 2,000 Palestinian civilian refugees at the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps near Beirut in 1982. A Belgian court in Brussels will decide this week whether to prosecute Sharon for crimes against humanity for his role in those massacres.
Moreover, the right-wing extremist PM has been under a lot of criticism lately for his brutal offensive against Palestinians in his attempt stop Palestinian resistance to Israeli occupation of Arab land.
"The government considers this program very seriously as reflecting a culture of incitement and hate. It recalls dark periods of history and has a clear anti-Semitic tone," Saar claimed.
AFP News Agency contributed to this report
I would be interested to see the Isrealis article on it in English, if at all possible.
Abu Dhabi TV hits hard at Sharon in its 'Irhabiat'
Israel is threatening to lodge a "severe complaint" at the United Nations against the station
November 19, 2001, 09:40 AM
ABU DHABI (Agencies)
- Abu Dhabi television was able to irritate the State of Israel at the highest level by portraying Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon as a vampire in an Arabic satire show it broadcasted earlier this week.
Ariel Sharon is hit at again for his deeds
Highlights of the program, originally called "Sharonades" but re-titled "Terrorisms" or "Irhabiat" in Arabic, have been broadcast by Israel's second private network and ignited allegations by Israel claiming the program of anti-Semitism, which is the accusation that Israeli politicians have overused in the past years whenever they plan a media attack on any subject.
And now Israel is threatening to lodge a "severe complaint" at the United Nations on Monday, according to Israel's cabinet secretary Gideon Saar. On Sunday, Abu Dhabi TV hit back at Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres for his scathing criticism of the show. "It seems Peres has no sense of humor," Abu Dhabi Television and Radio Director Ismail Abdullah told the official Emirates news agency WAM.
"Instead of shooting the messenger, Israel has to take a serious look at its policies and stop shooting at and killing Palestinians," he said.
Peres dubbed as "sickening" the program, which depicts Prime Minister Ariel Sharon as a bloodthirsty vampire.
Peres told the Israeli Army Radio Sunday that Abu Dhabi TV has sunk to a base level of anti-Jewishness.
"I am sickened. This reveals the appalling level of this television channel," Peres said.
The daily satire has been aired by state-run Abu Dhabi satellite channel since the start of the Muslim holy fasting month of Ramadan on Friday. It is due to run for 30 episodes.
Kuwaiti comedian Dawood Hussein who stars in the show has vowed to use the "weapon of satire" to fight Israel's aggressive policies towards Palestinian civilians.
"Satire is the weapon I will not renounce and through which I will show people the barbarity of the Zionist entity," he said.
Kuwaiti comedian Dawood Hussein
Hussein, as Sharon, waves a bottle filled with the blood of Arab children, delighted he will be able to quench his thirst.
Another scene shows a vampire sucking blood from the neck of Sharon's character and immediately collapsing dead from an infection.
Sharon was held responsible by an Israeli committee for the slaughter of more than 2,000 Palestinian civilian refugees at the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps near Beirut in 1982. A Belgian court in Brussels will decide this week whether to prosecute Sharon for crimes against humanity for his role in those massacres.
Moreover, the right-wing extremist PM has been under a lot of criticism lately for his brutal offensive against Palestinians in his attempt stop Palestinian resistance to Israeli occupation of Arab land.
"The government considers this program very seriously as reflecting a culture of incitement and hate. It recalls dark periods of history and has a clear anti-Semitic tone," Saar claimed.
AFP News Agency contributed to this report
I would be interested to see the Isrealis article on it in English, if at all possible.
BigBirdZ28
Fundamentalist in a Z28
Blackadder
Rooted to the spot
And now the Jerusalem's post's comments:
JERUSALEM (November 19) - Foreign Minister Shimon Peres plans to lodge a formal complaint with the UN today over the airing of an anti-Semitic satirical skit on Abu Dhabi Television over the weekend, cabinet secretary Gideon Sa'ar said yesterday.
Sa'ar said after the weekly cabinet meeting that the satire, which he said the government views "with gravity," reflects a culture of "incitement, hatred, and blood libel" in the Arab world.
The satirical skit, which aired on the second most popular television station in the Arab world, depicted a character meant to be Prime Minister Ariel Sharon drinking the blood of Arab children, as a grotesque-looking haredi looks on.
In another skit, Dracula appears to be taking a bite out of Sharon, but is himself killed because Sharon's blood is polluted.
The skit reminds us "of the worst forms of anti-Semitism that we have seen throughout our history," Sa'ar said. He said it is Israel's "obligation" to point this out to the world and let the international community see the type of hatred and incitement Israel is up against.
To this end the Foreign Ministry yesterday made tapes of the skit, with English subtitles. The visiting EU delegation, headed by Belgian President Guy Verhofstadt, was to receive a tape last night.
Verhofstadt was asked about the program during a press conference he held with Sharon yesterday, and said he thought the depiction of Sharon was a "scandal."
Foreign Ministry officials said that, as bad as the satire is, it is by no means unique in the Arab world. These types of caricatures appear almost every day in the Arab press, especially in Egypt, one official said.
He said what makes the Abu Dhabi satire worse is that while newspapers are seen by a few thousand or a few hundred thousand people, this particular television show was beamed into millions of homes throughout the Arab world.
The program - produced in Kuwait and featuring an Egyptian actor - was one of a series of programs on Sharon to be aired during Ramadan.
Deputy Foreign Minister Michael Melchior, who heads an interministerial committee to battle anti-Semitism, reacted to the skit by saying that anti-Semitism takes on a new appearance in every generation, and that hatred of Israel is the new, modern manifestation of this ancient hatred.
"If this was meant to be satire, it failed," said Wayne Firestone, the Anti-Defamation League's director here. "This was just a very inappropriate, hateful message, supposedly in honor of Ramadan. One would expect that a more humane and peaceful message could be delivered by people of this region during Ramadan, but instead what we have is a supposed satire that repeats the age-old blood libel against the Jewish people."
Firestone said the ADL sees the satire as being "aimed at the entire Jewish people. It is true they used the caricature of Sharon, but all the classical images of Jews with horns and of Jews drinking the blood of innocent non-Jews are a libel of the entire Jewish people."
Hope you don't mind me using the replys for listing these, but some people don't look at them and this is vital evidence.
Rascism in a comedy? Seems this show is more aimed on Sharon then the whole Jewish nation. At least thats what the provided evidence tells me...
JERUSALEM (November 19) - Foreign Minister Shimon Peres plans to lodge a formal complaint with the UN today over the airing of an anti-Semitic satirical skit on Abu Dhabi Television over the weekend, cabinet secretary Gideon Sa'ar said yesterday.
Sa'ar said after the weekly cabinet meeting that the satire, which he said the government views "with gravity," reflects a culture of "incitement, hatred, and blood libel" in the Arab world.
The satirical skit, which aired on the second most popular television station in the Arab world, depicted a character meant to be Prime Minister Ariel Sharon drinking the blood of Arab children, as a grotesque-looking haredi looks on.
In another skit, Dracula appears to be taking a bite out of Sharon, but is himself killed because Sharon's blood is polluted.
The skit reminds us "of the worst forms of anti-Semitism that we have seen throughout our history," Sa'ar said. He said it is Israel's "obligation" to point this out to the world and let the international community see the type of hatred and incitement Israel is up against.
To this end the Foreign Ministry yesterday made tapes of the skit, with English subtitles. The visiting EU delegation, headed by Belgian President Guy Verhofstadt, was to receive a tape last night.
Verhofstadt was asked about the program during a press conference he held with Sharon yesterday, and said he thought the depiction of Sharon was a "scandal."
Foreign Ministry officials said that, as bad as the satire is, it is by no means unique in the Arab world. These types of caricatures appear almost every day in the Arab press, especially in Egypt, one official said.
He said what makes the Abu Dhabi satire worse is that while newspapers are seen by a few thousand or a few hundred thousand people, this particular television show was beamed into millions of homes throughout the Arab world.
The program - produced in Kuwait and featuring an Egyptian actor - was one of a series of programs on Sharon to be aired during Ramadan.
Deputy Foreign Minister Michael Melchior, who heads an interministerial committee to battle anti-Semitism, reacted to the skit by saying that anti-Semitism takes on a new appearance in every generation, and that hatred of Israel is the new, modern manifestation of this ancient hatred.
"If this was meant to be satire, it failed," said Wayne Firestone, the Anti-Defamation League's director here. "This was just a very inappropriate, hateful message, supposedly in honor of Ramadan. One would expect that a more humane and peaceful message could be delivered by people of this region during Ramadan, but instead what we have is a supposed satire that repeats the age-old blood libel against the Jewish people."
Firestone said the ADL sees the satire as being "aimed at the entire Jewish people. It is true they used the caricature of Sharon, but all the classical images of Jews with horns and of Jews drinking the blood of innocent non-Jews are a libel of the entire Jewish people."
Hope you don't mind me using the replys for listing these, but some people don't look at them and this is vital evidence.
Rascism in a comedy? Seems this show is more aimed on Sharon then the whole Jewish nation. At least thats what the provided evidence tells me...
I tend to agree blackadder, based upon the articles, but I am not familier with this dinking of blood reference. If this is a typical anti-semitic attack, then perhaps the tape could be out of line. I wasn't aware that Jews were accused of drinking other people's blood. If this is the case it does put a negative spin on what otherwise could be a legitimate form of political statement.
Those more in the know, enlighten me. Please.
Those more in the know, enlighten me. Please.
PinkyGen
Paper copying intern
The drinking blood part is the reason why I consider it anti-semetic and not merely just making fun of Sharon. A constant charge against the Jews in the middle ages was that they were blood suckers, and that they kidnapped Christian babies and drank their blood and used it to make matzvah. (Even though it's one of the driest things I've ever eaten, matzvah that is, not blood 
).
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Simon Darkshade
Mysterious City of Gold
"I sure wasn't talking about the Iraqis that got killed when Israel flew into Iraq to hit the Nuclear plant. '
So, let me get this right: Iraq under the rule of Saddam Hussein having nuclear weapons to go with their missiles would not be a bad thing.
What happened at Osirak helped preserve what little piece there is in the region.
And on the point PinkyGen raised on the drinking of blood being a traditional line of anti-Semitism, this was my impression also, and made the matter all the more disturbing. If that miserable, disgusting rubbish is what passes for satire or humour in that part of the world, then I grieve for their comedic tradition.
So, let me get this right: Iraq under the rule of Saddam Hussein having nuclear weapons to go with their missiles would not be a bad thing.
What happened at Osirak helped preserve what little piece there is in the region.
And on the point PinkyGen raised on the drinking of blood being a traditional line of anti-Semitism, this was my impression also, and made the matter all the more disturbing. If that miserable, disgusting rubbish is what passes for satire or humour in that part of the world, then I grieve for their comedic tradition.
G-Man
A One Man's War
I replied in the quote.
Very well.
Sharon is sitting on a thrown made of skulls, drinking blood, laughing and having fun. His helper, a religious jew, is dancing around him in the most twisted way possible and drinking blood. The other jews, also religious, were dancing around rediculeously, most of them holding glasses of blood in their hands. Sharon brags infront of his helper about how successful was the Palestinian killing today and the helper tells Sharon how glad he is about it. Then the pictures change to the real pictures from the bowlroom disaster last year and a voice-over says "The response of Allah".
The site I took it from says "The jew looking for muslims to kill"
So if I'll put on a cross instead it would be criticism against sweden? Also, look at the face. it the truditional way to describe a jew in nazi propoganda.
Very few as it was made on friday (holy day in Islam). Also, Iraq and Israel are enemies. Iraq fought Israel in 48' and 67'. If we wouldn't have done that the scuds in 91' would've caused a lot more damage then the 2 people they killed.
G-Man
A One Man's War
Here, I found some pictures from that show (they're taken from a Israeli site so they have translation to hebrew at the bottom. I'll translate it to english)
Sharon talking to the other jews. "Please. I brought a bottle of arab blood to drink"
"Don't drink milk
if you're in Tel Aviv"
So everyone in Tel aviv drink blood?
Sharon talking to the other jews. "Please. I brought a bottle of arab blood to drink"
"Don't drink milk
if you're in Tel Aviv"
So everyone in Tel aviv drink blood?
Simon Darkshade
Mysterious City of Gold
"Sharon is sitting on a thrown made of skulls, drinking blood, laughing and having fun. His helper, a religious jew, is dancing around him in the most twisted way possible and drinking blood. The other jews, also religious, were dancing around rediculeously, most of them holding glasses of blood in their hands. Sharon brags infront of his helper about how successful was the Palestinian killing today and the helper tells Sharon how glad he is about it. Then the pictures change to the real pictures from the bowlroom disaster last year and a voice-over says "The response of Allah". "
I don't think anyone could pass that off as harmless satire.
It needs to be stopped
I don't think anyone could pass that off as harmless satire. It needs to be stopped
Thanks for the clarification on the historical aspect of blood drinking. I am now fully in the camp that believes that this is not political satire, but racist tripe. The addition of the people representing religious jews takes it from being a statement about Sharon to one about Jews.
You are right about matzvah too. dry doesn't even begin to describe that stuff.
You are right about matzvah too. dry doesn't even begin to describe that stuff.
G-Man
A One Man's War
It's called matza and it's supposed to be as dry as it can possibly be. It represents the bread that the Israelis prepared in Egypt just before they run away, so they didn't have the time to prepare the bread they way they were supposed to, so this is what came out.
If you want proof it's not made of christian blood don't think it's just dry, it was also invented in 4000BC.
If you want proof it's not made of christian blood don't think it's just dry, it was also invented in 4000BC.
Blackadder
Rooted to the spot
Well it looks like we have agreed upon certain things in this thread about an attempt in comedy.
Firstly, this is definatly more than comedy!
Secondly, so far, this is LEGAL.
Thirdly, no news from the U.N.
Fourthly, this has nothing to do with history from Abu-Dubi's point of view, but more the 'comical' drawings/writings of a man with clips added.
So on to the other main point, now we have identified with the provided evidence that this transgresses politically correct humour (by a mile and a half). So what is to be done?
30 episodes have been made, and so far it has taken only ONE to spark this debate off.
So what are our options...
A] Continual complaining to the U.N.
B] An international showing of the cartoons to the Heads of external Middle East governments in the hope of gaining support for a ban on such items throughout the world.
C] Television shows featuring Arabs and Israelies getting along with each other.
D] Nothing.
E] Other options that I hope someone else will list, because those are all I can think about above violence or espionage.
Firstly, this is definatly more than comedy!
Secondly, so far, this is LEGAL.
Thirdly, no news from the U.N.
Fourthly, this has nothing to do with history from Abu-Dubi's point of view, but more the 'comical' drawings/writings of a man with clips added.
So on to the other main point, now we have identified with the provided evidence that this transgresses politically correct humour (by a mile and a half). So what is to be done?
30 episodes have been made, and so far it has taken only ONE to spark this debate off.
So what are our options...
A] Continual complaining to the U.N.
B] An international showing of the cartoons to the Heads of external Middle East governments in the hope of gaining support for a ban on such items throughout the world.
C] Television shows featuring Arabs and Israelies getting along with each other.
D] Nothing.
E] Other options that I hope someone else will list, because those are all I can think about above violence or espionage.
Originally posted by Simon Darkshade
"Sharon is sitting on a thrown made of skulls, drinking blood, laughing and having fun. His helper, a religious jew, is dancing around him in the most twisted way possible and drinking blood. The other jews, also religious, were dancing around rediculeously, most of them holding glasses of blood in their hands. Sharon brags infront of his helper about how successful was the Palestinian killing today and the helper tells Sharon how glad he is about it. Then the pictures change to the real pictures from the bowlroom disaster last year and a voice-over says "The response of Allah". "
It needs to be stopped
Extremely offensive sh!t. Saying x is nazi is completely other thing than
saying certain ethnical group are full of blood-drinking madmans.
Everyone who watches these kind-of things seriosly are official idiots & fanatics.
I've been hearen this kind of bull extremely rarely. (such as 'martyr machine' -internet video )
These kind of disgusting things should definetly be restricted from audience.
G-Man
A One Man's War
I'm glad we can agree on that. This thread is staying on the same subject unlike previous debates that quickly turned into another Israeli-Palestinian conflict debates.
Anyway, the show I described is the one that was shown. I oppened this thread because of the channel's intentions to create a history program based on "the protocols of the zion elders". This show wasn't released yet so obviously I can't tell what will it be like but just the idea of showing the protocols as history facts is making me angry
about what we can do:
A] done.
B] I think most leaders if not all will prefer the oil they get over being right.
C] I know there are many of those in Israel (A friend of mine was invited to a TV trivia game in which each teams is composed of one jew and one muslim). The problem is that it's only broadcasted in Israel.
Blackadder
Rooted to the spot
Aye, I like to see all the facts first before acting out my view, but this had gone on far enough!
The Arabic states and Isreal on the same network has got to be the way, but how to do it???
The states are wealthy enough to live without bribing them, won't respond to threats, other nations are busy with oil, etc
How?
Also 'martyr machine' -internet video ) - the violence of stickmen, when will they learn?
What do you say Bigbird, now this 'evidence' has come to light?
The Arabic states and Isreal on the same network has got to be the way, but how to do it???
The states are wealthy enough to live without bribing them, won't respond to threats, other nations are busy with oil, etc
How?
Also 'martyr machine' -internet video ) - the violence of stickmen, when will they learn?
What do you say Bigbird, now this 'evidence' has come to light?