How About A Building Sequence For the Cities?

Should we have some sort of Auto Building Function in Civ4?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 42.9%
  • No

    Votes: 8 57.1%

  • Total voters
    14
  • Poll closed .

menwia

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One thing that is really tidious in Civ - apart from waiting for the Stupid AI to finish its turn - and I've got a pretty uptodate comp - is the necessarty of having to chose every single time what to build next.

Come on Developers - give us a way to set up our own unique building sequence which every city created will follow. As new buulding come available and new units - we can add them on the so called Master Building List which all cities created can follow.

You should be able to turn on or off this building function as obviosly there will be certain cities and occasions when you will have to deviate from this plan - but it would so much more easier. Everyone has their own way of constructing a city. Eg Frist build a barracks, then a worker, then a temple, then some walls, then a courthouse, then a market, and so on - once you've got your way of doing things you pretty much use it for all the other cities.

Am I talkin crazy or is what say making some sense here - your thoughts people . . .
 
Have you tried 'Build Orders' by right clicking on the Production Box in the City display? You can queue your build orders this way. Or the Governor option? You can set your cities on auto build, and have some modicum of control over what gets built in one or all of your cities on the same continent. Press 'G' in the city display. Hope this helps.
 
MeatWad said:
Have you tried 'Build Orders' by right clicking on the Production Box in the City display? You can queue your build orders this way. Or the Governor option? You can set your cities on auto build, and have some modicum of control over what gets built in one or all of your cities on the same continent. Press 'G' in the city display. Hope this helps.


I hear what you are sayiny, and I've tried all the techniques you've mentioned - but it just don't cut it - a kinda of master build list which you can create can apply to all the cities you have is what would really be good. I don't wanna have to click on every city I have to choose what it should bulid. I wanna be able to have some kind of list I myself can create at the beginning of the game so that every city will follow its plan - except the ones I toggle off. For example, I want every city to build s worker first, then barracks, then temple, then courthose, then marketplace, and so on. This is just an example - but the cities, all of them - will follow my exact plan - not some random city governer and with out me having to click on every city to set up a build queue.

If it is possible ot create in the game - don't you think it would make an improvement to the gameplay?
 
No. Each city is different and should build whatever it needs.
 
I think the governor works just fine for this. I dislike the governor anyway, because each city is different. I wouldn't want a tiny, slow growing city that is used only as a fortress or colony to build settler/worker.
 
My problem with auto-build has to do with multiplayer. Particularly in a time-sensitive "turnless" gameplay, the person with the best advantage will be the person who's spent the time to perfect their build order.

At least that's how it is with RTSes.

A retort to other people's problem -- you wouldn't have ONE build order, you could have defined macros. Multiple macros. "The Basics" to get your city started. "Protect Frontier" to get it on its feet in terms of national defence -- for perimiter cities. "Prosperity" for your inner-cities. You'd basically bust out whichever macros you wanted at certain times.

But my problem with this is still stated above. Whoever has the best macros would win.
 
They have something like this in C-evo (a public game based on Civ)
You can create up to 4 build lists for cities labled:
-Standard
-Economic
-Industrial
-Militaristic
Or something like that. After you've set up that list, it becomes an option in the build menu. You select it, and you city will automaticly follow that build order.
 
I would be happy if it was possible to save and load building queue.
It gets annoying after a while when you have build the same queue in like 15 cities. It would be better to just be able to load a pre-made queue.

This is one off the biggest reasons I don't like to go to war, since I have to rebuild all the cities I conquer. (Or at least the improvement.)
 
Yuri2356 said:
They have something like this in C-evo (a public game based on Civ)
You can create up to 4 build lists for cities labled:
-Standard
-Economic
-Industrial
-Militaristic
Or something like that. After you've set up that list, it becomes an option in the build menu. You select it, and you city will automaticly follow that build order.


this is exactly what I'm talkin about. I mean with all the Civ Delevlopers Resources and experience - I"m sure it can't be too difficult to implement. Those who don't want to use these build lists are more then happy not to - but for those of us who do - it would make game play so much easier. And when the cities have built everything you have told them to in the build lists -you can modify them at any point - change cities to different build lists as the game develops and the situations change - or just toggle them off and build them individually yourself. But to be honest - most cities, regardless of where they are or what they do - all have the same basic buildings built in them. I might be wrong, but very few cities that we don't always want to build a temple, barracks, marketplace, courthouse - ect. Even a frontier city I owuld like to have these imporvements in there, no matter where my city is in the empire. But of course that is personal taste - but the bottom line here is that we wnat the option of setting up our own build list or lists that can be applied to all, some or jsut a few of our cities - it being our choice. It would cut down what I call "Waste Time" and increase what we all want which is "Game Time." come on Civ Developers - there's only so many times you can tell your mayor of a city to build a temple - before it gets a bit too tedious.
 
Harald said:
I would be happy if it was possible to save and load building queue.
It gets annoying after a while when you have build the same queue in like 15 cities. It would be better to just be able to load a pre-made queue.

This is one off the biggest reasons I don't like to go to war, since I have to rebuild all the cities I conquer. (Or at least the improvement.)

Exactly what I'm talkin about - rest of me comments above in earliar reply. . .
 
...but the bottom line here is that we wnat the option of setting up our own build list ...

I would watch the "we" in the above statement.

I don't think that I would use any sort of pre-desgined build list but it does sound like something that would be easy to implement for those who want such a feature.

Question: Can't you tell the governer to do something along these lines.
 
I'm very much in favour of Buliding Lists - although it changes as I develop new buildings, obviously, its still pretty standard (Temple, 2x workers, aquaduct, harbour, courthouse, library...). But if this was implemented it's need to have those differant options, and after each tech development a pop-up with "Would you like to add Cathedral to a buliding list, Mam?" perhaps?
 
Ryth said:
I'm very much in favour of Buliding Lists - although it changes as I develop new buildings, obviously, its still pretty standard (Temple, 2x workers, aquaduct, harbour, courthouse, library...). But if this was implemented it's need to have those differant options, and after each tech development a pop-up with "Would you like to add Cathedral to a buliding list, Mam?" perhaps?


It could be that a pop up could ask you if you wish to add a certain improvemnt which has just suddenly become available or it coudl be that one can just add to the list/lists when ever they wish. I think the pop up is a nice idea. As soon as you get a new improvement you have the option of adding it to the list or not - its a nice touch. However, i would say there could be more then one list or the optoin of making three or four lists as was mentioned before. YOu could name each list yourself if you wanted to - these are just idea's, the actually coding and implemenation of them would be for the developers - as they would know best which method works better in teh game and is more compatablie - not to mention less work.

But I don't see any reason for anyone being appossed to this - its a function that you can either choose or choose not to use. It would be completly up the individual player! It would personally improve my gaming experience as I can concentrate on the more fun aspects of the game. Don't get wrong, I like building - that's one of Civ's major attractions - but repetation on a great scale can really get tedious, its just a tool to avoid or make it less strenous on us long suffering - sleepless nights players who sit down for quick one hour session and get up twelve hours later not really knowing what happened - unsure if it best just to go through the night and get it over with - or to recharge the batteries and be fresh for the battle. . .

I don't want to tell the comp to build a temple thrity times, a barracks thrity times - Boo - Hoo, its just not fair - I mean, after you've done once, twice, three times, you shouldn't have to do it again, and again - and again - when will it stop . . . "deep breath, deep breath - count to ten . . .sleep sleep . . . one barracks - two barracks - three barracks . . . HOLD it - isn't that suppose to be sheep I'm counting . . . I just don't know any more, after all who can blame me - I've just finished playing a game of Civ.
 
The build sequences should be hard coded, so as not to give an advantage to people who had gone out and downloaded the best order, or who preferred to take the time out to automate their order than to do it manually every time. This would be a problem for Multiplayer, in my books, so it would have to be balanced.
 
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