How do you Remove a Civilization a Map file?

Eddogegr3

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I know how to change Civ's and Leaders - but I want to play on a map that is pre-made with 18 Civ's -- I want to make this number lower. I thought it would be simple enough. open up the Map file with wordpad, edit it like I do to change leaders and that would work. And it seems to until I hit launch. The game crashes...

seems like this should be easy? What am I missing? I suppose I can go into World Builder and delete them on the first turn, but that seems clumsy.
 
you actually kinda can just delete them, the problem is civ needs to know the max amount of players and that number needs to be the same as the map. So if you delete a civ, you still need to fill in with a blank one. So if you had an entry like this before;

Code:
BeginPlayer
	LeaderType=LEADER_GENGHIS_KHAN
	CivType=CIVILIZATION_MONGOL                         
	Team=8                         
	PlayableCiv=1                         
	StartingX=99, StartingY=51                         
	Handicap=HANDICAP_NOBLE                         
EndPlayer

then change it to this to make it "empty", and don't forget to match up team with correct player

Code:
BeginPlayer
	LeaderType=NONE
	CivType=NONE
	Team=9
EndPlayer

so basically you always have to have team 0-17 in an unmodded civ scenario, whether they have a pre-defined civ or not is the difference.
 
Uh oh... new issue. I can get in the game now with the 7 out of 18 Civ's I choose (I am playing Huge Euro Map)


But as the game begins... it says I have been defeated. It doesn't even show my first settler. all black. You have been defeated. The power graph. "Exit to Main Menu." etc...

Do I have to put all the 7 Civs I want to use before the 11 "NONE"'s maybe?

any input would help!
 
I would try that, sorry I don't know exactly, I haven't messed around with building too many scenario's
 
If you don't have any units or cities the game will do that. Try starting a normal game without your map, then open the world builder and load your map. You should then be able to edit it. If you exit the world builder without fixing the problem the same thing will still happen again though.
 
How can I get into world builder when I can't start a new game w/o it saying I have been defeated right away and kicking me out??? I have tried this with about 3 different leaders on the map and same thing.

And there should be units for each Civ -- I didn't edit that aspect of it because they were already there to begin with. All I did was change a couple of leaders (i.e. switched Kublia w/ Genghis), changed a couple of Civ's (I wanted Persia in the Middle East instead of Babylon), and I axed about 11 other Civs (and I did that just like I was told to do above with "NONE")... I did not add or remove any individual units. Although I moved one of the leaders starting spots over a few squares... I wonder if I moved him into the water?

Although, Team 0 - 3 says "NONE". Not until Team 4 is there a Civ. Should I move the 11 "NONE"'s to the bottom AFTER the 7 Civ's I choose to keep in the map?


Basically,the Huge European Map, I feel is the greatest map I have seen. I have played it with the 18 -- but my computer is too slow with this. Plus, 18 doesn't give many a chance to become "empires"; I just want to have this huge Euromap with Rival's Rome vs Carthage, Persia vs Greece, The "Barbarian" Celt's and Holy Roman up north and Genghis all by himself making a huge Mongol Invasion eminent in the middle part of the game...
 
How can I get into world builder when I can't start a new game w/o it saying I have been defeated right away and kicking me out???

Start the game without your scenario. Then start a custom game. Once the map is loaded, goto world builder and load your scenario. You may get it error, but it should at least give you an idea where the problem is.
 
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