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How to defend against Spies

Ykai

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I'm currently playing this game - standard map, highlands (so lots of mountains with easily blocked mountain passes), prince difficulty, 8 players total.

It's the modern age for me, most rivals are still playing around with cavalry and grenadiers. I have focused on espionage from the beginning; built the great wall, had a couple of great spies, and attributed points well.

I have at least 10,000 more espionage points with every AI than they have with me. I have security bureaus and intelligence agencies, as well as one spy in every city. I have also closed off every entrance into my territory with one or more spies.

So what I cannot understand is how it is that I am catching spies every turn, but every 10 turns or so there is one that manages to poison one of my cities' water supplies anyway. I opened up the world builder to see how bad the infestation was, and there are actually multiple enemy spies lounging away in most of my cities.

What the heck? I am having trouble keeping my own spies in enemy tiles for long, and here I am, fully and maximally defended against espionage, and there are spies all over my lands? What's going on?

I am not playing with the latest patch I must say (I am at Beyond the Sword 3.03), so perhaps this is something that was patched already? If not, what can I do to stop it? It's not hurting me badly but it's annoying for sure.
 
Try playing as Sumer, go for ziggurats as they give you espionage points very early.
I'm playing on monarch and I don't have that much problems with spies. However I'm using the latest patch and the RoM mod.
 
Well, if you're catching a lot of spies then you are doing a good job. There isn't a lot more you can do - except to make sure you are running Counter Espionage missions permanently. (ie. timing the missions so that as soon as it runs out you do it again.) It also helps to weight your EP towards the civs that are giving you the most trouble with their spies.
 
You could have a Security Bureau in every city, a Spy on every tile in your empire, vastly more EPs against your opponents than they have against you, run counterespionage missions regularly against every opponent, and still have enemy Spies doing damage to you. A bit like real life, for once . . .
 
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