I do not think that word means what you think it means.

[King Victor I]

I just saw this message on the diplomacy screen.

Relationship: Freindly

Nothing is abjectly affecting your relationship at this time.

Abjectly?

 

[Mr. Shadows]

Lol... nice catch. Maybe they meant adversely?

 

[Abraxis]

It could be used that way, but it is weird. Could just be a regional thing.

 

[Craig_Sutter]

To say nothing of the spelling of "freindly".

 

[Victoria]

An adjective freindliness of Pedro sounds about right.

Who was it @King Victor I ?

 

[MaryKB]

Abjectly could be correct - in this case it would mean that there is nothing extremely serious adding a negative score. I have heard this adjective used in similar situations before.

 

[Victoria]

Abjectly could be correct - in this case it would mean that there is nothing extremely serious adding a negative score. I have heard this adjective used in similar situations before.

I have also heard this and to me it always feels like they meant to say "badly" but its meaning is being abused.

 

[MaryKB]

Well "abjectly" would mean "extremely badly", or so bad that it brings you into the bottom rung of how bad it can be. I personally don't object to using a more colorful and extreme adjective rather than stringing multiple adjectives together to achieve the same meaning. It is definitely an issue though when they didn't mean to take it that far!

 

[dunkleosteus]

In its common use, it seems to be used in conjunction with a term that is already considered negative. "Abject terror", "abject poverty". It seems to be often used as an intensifier, or a measure of an existing negative trait. It is certainly only used in negative contexts.

But you could use "frighteningly" in a similar way: "frighteningly evil", or "frighteningly devoid of remorse". You wouldn't say "Nothing has affected our relationship frighteningly." though. Like, I'm sure we could all understand what you meant because on a basic level the word is only used in a negative context, but it still sounds very odd.

 

[Victoria]

But you could use "frighteningly" in a similar way: "frighteningly evil

Abject terror is quivering on the ground uncontrollably in fright or dead. TBH I would like to see Pedro do that
Any other meaning currently is a bastardisation but no doubt will come into use

 

[Leyrann]

Abject terror is quivering on the ground uncontrollably in fright or dead. TBH I would like to see Pedro do that
Any other meaning currently is a bastardisation but no doubt will come into use

Don't worry. He is He was my neighbour in my current Zulu game.

 

[halfhalfharp]

You know what ...In V, this used to be a signal that he/she is going to invade/denounce you in a while.

Especially true for great Dido backstabbers and warmongers that keep smiling at you but never accept a friendship.

We had a trend of deceptiveness back in V. Literally meaning that the screen shows "friendly" but actually there are a lot of red relationships hidden.

I am not sure does it exist in VI. But I believe it is just the case thatevery leader has a random starting diplomatic value to you. And this one appears to be starting at higher value, by luck.

 

[dunkleosteus]

I think it's ok for words to take on new meanings over time. To some degree, language should be allowed to evolve with the societies and cultures that use them. However, I think there's an uncanny valley here. I dislike that "quantum leap" has come to mean "huge step forward" when quantum has traditionally meant incredibly small (although the word itself means pertaining to quanta). Quantum was used to describe the incredibly tiny because at those scales you start dealing with discrete quantities. I agree with the use of "quantum" for small things, but I dislike the misuse of the word to mean the opposite.

I commonly use "cool" to mean popular/trendy/etc. I understand that it developed that meaning from "cool personality" as in someone that doesn't become hot-headed and explode. Someone who is calm and collected. If a word is used because of a clear and meaningful descent from an existing meaning, I can accept it. If a word is generated from a misunderstanding of a concept, I cannot.

Even vaguer relationships are fine, in my opinion. I can accept that "salty" has come to mean "overly upset or disagreeable in regards to the outcome of an event" as in someone can be "salty" about losing in a competition. Using tastes to relate to moods is already something we do with "bitter", which also has a negative connotation. Too much of either of these tastes are nasty.

 

[halfhalfharp]

I think it's ok for words to take on new meanings over time. To some degree, language should be allowed to evolve with the societies and cultures that use them. However, I think there's an uncanny valley here. I dislike that "quantum leap" has come to mean "huge step forward" when quantum has traditionally meant incredibly small (although the word itself means pertaining to quanta). Quantum was used to describe the incredibly tiny because at those scales you start dealing with discrete quantities. I agree with the use of "quantum" for small things, but I dislike the misuse of the word to mean the opposite.

I commonly use "cool" to mean popular/trendy/etc. I understand that it developed that meaning from "cool personality" as in someone that doesn't become hot-headed and explode. Someone who is calm and collected. If a word is used because of a clear and meaningful descent from an existing meaning, I can accept it. If a word is generated from a misunderstanding of a concept, I cannot.

Yeah new meaning for words.... Lets be friends (And then I take out a knife and stab you in the heart)

I guess this case is likely just hypocrisy and deception, rather than the evolution of vocabulary meaning.

I can use "cool" to mean like and disdain at any circumstances actually.
You do me a favor? You are cool.
You wear a super ugly dress and ask my opinion? Urgh, cool, I guess?
Is my dress cool? Cool. (without even looking)

The meaning of words doesn't reflect the true intetnions in diplomacy actually.

 

[Victoria]

I am not sure does it exist in VI

I am pretty sure it exists, in the diplomacy Lua it shows a variable something like visible_ mood indicating there is an invisible.
I am also pretty dure the AI takes your perceived view of them into account.