Ideas for new Great and Small Wonders and City Improvements

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What do you think more wonders should be in the game? What wonders that exist should be changed? I can think of a few, post yours here.

World Trade Center Site - If this game had terrorism (terrorist units, and a possibility every turn in modern age your city could be nuked or poisoned by terrorists) it would help decrease the chances of that happening, slightly decrease chance of enemy spying, and allow you draft a citizen with less unhappy people (should be 2 ppl for democracy - 1 from WTCS wonder), and if there was any unit like Privateer or Commando, it would increase the chances of you finding out who did it.
Not that expensive of a wonder (ain't too valuable), but a great wonder in the Modern Ages.

Arlington Cemetary - Replaces Battle Field Medicine. It allows you to do the same thing it does. Small Wonder. I like the idea of having be named Arlington Cemetary as in Washington DC because it's copied from a real thing.
Costs the same and is the same, but different.

Sears Tower - Should be like a Modern Day Colossus. It increases trade in that city the same way a Colossus does.
But it is expensive (modern day). Great Wonder.

United Nations - Not only should it allow diplomatic victory, but should allow the ability to have SMAC style council with many options like anti-raze ban, repeal atrocity charter (if the game had atrocities, global trade pact, etc. Civ who builds it gets a special bonus.

NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) - Allows you to declare war on a neighbor but the defendee WILL be the one who is considered to be the offender, and your citizens will be have war weariness similar to defensive war, and theirs offensive war. Also allows you make MPPs, ROPs, and MAs easier with the AI. On top of that, it decreases war weariness and possibility of terrorism slightly lower for you AND your allies.

Shake Spear Theatre - Instead of 8 citizens happy in the city, it will be 2 for all cities all over the world for you.

Statue of Liberty - I want it back from Civ II! Does the same thing religious does, it gives you the ability to switch governments without anarchy and the switch is instantanous, in other words 0 turns. Also, it increases your culture of all your cities by +25%. (Considering there are more defenses against cultural assimilation a culturally losing civ can do and it is MUCH harder to culturally assimilate).

Tell your ideas.
 
a small wonder that has one of the effect of the civ2's apollo program, reveal map,...call it ikonos (the cool satellite that take sthe pictures) or something like that :P

its kinda silly that you can build spaceships but you still cant see the entire world..

should be small since every civ should be able to get this, not just one and the rest are screwed
 
Leave Shakespeares Theatre the same, at the time it was built you had to be in the same city to enjoy the shows there. However after TV was invented they could broadcast the shows, larger audience but less of a Cultural event.
How about an improvement in the late Industrial Age called the TV Studio, effect is 2 unhappy become content (a modern Temple) no culture. Perhaps throw in a tech called Television after Radio, not linked to Advanced Flight. Television halves the benefit of Shakespeares Theatre, and makes the population more immune to enemy propaganda and more open to yours.
Then after Computers is researched the effect goes upto 3 unhappy made content and +25% trade in all cities connected to the trade network (Cable TV with Advertising & Infomercials). Harbors will be linked by undersea cable.
Could even throw in a Small Wonder on the Satellites tech called Direct TV, TV Studio in every city.
No Cultural bonus is easy to understand if you've ever seen Oprah or Springer.
TV Studios would be destroyed along with the cutural buildings when a city is taken, they always are in real life.

New Espionage(?) mission for Civs with the Intelligence Agency.
Spin Control. Lets you attack enemy troops within your borders and not being considered the instigator of the war that follows by your populace, ie defensive War Weariness instead of aggressive. No change to reputation effects or the way other Civs see the action. Cheaper with TV Studios.

Arlington Cemetary: don't know about calling a wonder that heals this :confused: . No healing done here.
Sears Tower: Call it the World Trade Expo or Fair, same effect as Colossus.
United Nations: Agree totally. World Council actions in SMAC were great.
 
I still wonder some things...
why every new wonders should be american (hollywood, superbowl, sears tower, world trade center, FBI, supreme court... soon I'm sure I'll see McDonald's and Palm Beach !)

The game should be more universal... for example... why not giving other names to some wonders: the Hoover Dam for example could be replaced by the Assouan Dam in Egypt... a dam that huge on the longest river, the nile, rocks more to me then some dam in Nevada...
 
OK, this isn't a "new" city improvement, but should be taken in.

Police Stations should reduce corruption! Corruption sort of represents crime and therefore Police Stations should help. Only an idea - what do you think? (okay, maybe it's a crappy Call to Power idea)

As for Hoover Dam compared to Aswan Dam, the Aswan Dam was built in 1979, whereas the Hoover Dam was started quite soon after they could build it. I agree that the Hoover Dam might have a smaller importance when we're talking about electricity generating, but when talking about importance and "being first" the Hoover Dam is a big candidate. (Well, we did dam up a few rivers in Norway as well, but we're so far away and have so little importance)
 
About WTC:in the mod that i'm making, i've intoduced EMPIRE STATE BUILDING:
Prerequisite:corporation
Effects:Like colossus.

If you think these bulidings are used as offices of many great corporations.They attract a great amount of commerce so i think that effects is like of The Colossus.
:cool:
 
Have to agree with Marla here about all the new Wonders being American. The WTC was a legitimate choice of modern Colossus but it is gone and the Empire State Building is nowhere near a replacement for it.
What about Lloyd's in London, biggest Insurance underwriters on the planet, even started out as a shipping insurance company so has a maritime connection with the Colossus and could be an Industrial Age Wonder as it was first heard of in 1688 and was put on the exchange in 1774. Plus they have that awesome building in London that would look great as a Wonder.
I also think think that either the Apollo Project or the SETI program have to reveal the map, if not being automatic after the researching of Satellites, or another tech called Whole of the Earth, after the 60's and 70's campaign of the same name.
Apollo Project: Build spaceships to travel to at least the moon. They have to orbit the earth so that they have the correct vectors for their flight, Earth acts as a giant sling shot, you'd think somebody would look down.
SETI Program: Mapping and Radio sweeping interstellar space. Odd that you know whats 'out there' but still don't know whats under those tiles 20 m(t)iles away?
 
This ideas is mostly taken from others I read in this forum, I think most of them is very good ideas to be in the game, some of them is mine though:

Concentration Camp
Cost: 400
Maintenance: 3
Production: 4
+ 50% Research
Unhappy: 3 (in all cities, if possible also at other civs, so that they could attack you)
Reduces Corruption
Reduces War Wariness
Need: Nationalism/Fascist government

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Radio Station
Cost: 140
Maintenance: 2
Culture: 2
Resistant to propaganda
Need: Radio/Newspaper
Happy: +2 (in the city)
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Green Economy
Cost: 200
Maintenance: 6
Removes pop. pollution and perhaps building pollution
Happy: +3 (in city)
Needs: Ecology
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Secret Police
Cost: 180
Maintenance: 1
Resistant to propaganda
Reduces Corruption
Reduced war weariness
Need: Nationalism/Police Station/Fascist or Communist government
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Stock Exchange
Cost: 400
Maintenance: 0
+ 50% luxery
+ 50% Tax output
Needs: The corporation/Bank
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Museum
Cost: 200
Maintenace: 4
Culture: 6
Happy: 1 (in city)
Needs: Atomic Theory/Theater
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Laboratory
Cost: 180
Maintenance: 3
+ 50% Research
Needs:Scientific Method/University
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Theater
Cost: 140
Maintenance: 2
Culture: 4
Happy: 2
Reduces War weariness
Needs: Free Artistery
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Mill
Cost: 160
Maintenance: 2
Production: 2
Must be near a river
Needs: Engineering
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Propaganda Minestry
Cost: 400
Maintenance: 2
Reduces war weariness
Reduces corruption
Happy faces: 3 (in city)
Needs: The corporation
Government: Fascist, Communist or Despotism
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Movie Theater
Cost: 200
Maintenance: 2
Cultur: 4
Reduces war weariness
Happy faces: 3 (in city)
Needs: Electronics
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Newspaper
Cost: 120
Maintenance: 1
Culture: 1
Reduces corruption
Happy faces: 1 (in city)
Needs: Printing press
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Street Cars
Cost: 18
Maintenance: 0
Happy: 2
Needs: ?
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TV Station
Cost: 30
Maintenance: 5
Culture: 1
Happy: 1 (all cities)
Needs: Television Broadcasting
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Philharmonica Orchestra
Cost: 20
Maintenance: 2
Culture: 4
Happy: 1 (in city)
Needs: Free Artistery
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Opera House
Cost: 20
Maintenance: 3
Culture: 5
Happy: 1 (in city)
Needs: Free Artistery
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Art Academy
Cost: 30
Maintenance: 3
Culture: 3
Needs: Free Artistery
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Art Gallery:
Cost: 20
Maintenance: 2
Culture: 3
Happy: 1 (in city)
Needs: Free Aristry + Art Academy...
 
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