IFC23.DLL error message in Ptw 1.04f

[sealman]

what is a 'warez' version?

 

[LordBishop]

A little note on people like you who can't stand piracy:

I kind of agree with you that people should buy games, I'm a programmer myself and I rely on legal purchase for living.
I myself was always buying legal copies until the day 75% of games were released (and still are) full of bugs and companies rely on gamers to debug their games. Unfortunately, there are too many games and they are released too fast, too buggy. Companies do not their testing as they should and this pisses gamers off.

As for myself, before buying legal copies, I download them from newsgroups and try them. If I found the game suitable I go to the store and buy it. In the past I experienced many frustrations regarding unfinished games and many times I end up spending money for nothing because poor quality products. I have many original copies that ended up in garbage because of that.

I think you will agree with my position on that.

If you are jalous because you don't know how to, or where to get pirated copies it's not my problem. Buy the game, play the game and leave us be. This post does not concern people like you, so please mind your own business.

 

[etj4Eagle]

LordBishop while I can see the logic with your statement (particularly since many games are released without demos or demos that lag by many months), I have a strong belief that those who are playing warez versions should never post bug reports. This particular situation being a perfect example of why not. I have seen too many situations of a buggy warez version whether it be bad pirating, a true alpha version, or screw ups caused by long file names (Total Annihilation being one case I remember) and the bug reports that get posted make the game look a lot buggier than it is.

 

[Seraph]

I agree, people who dont by the game shouldnt start *****ing about "faulty patches" and other BS when 95% of the time its the fault of the fact they were too cheap to by the game in the first place.

 

[LordBishop]

As far as I'm concerned I don't touch Warez copies. These versions are indeed problematics and can cause misinterpretations. I personnaly use ISO images, which is 99% identical than original, believe me.
In my opinion a game "that look" is very different than a game "that is". If a game is good don't worry it will distinguish itself from the other and good reputation will arise. On the other hand, the oppisite happens for poor or/and buggy games.

Meanwhile, I still believe that people should support game makers when a product is good. The only way to force companies to improve their Q&A is not buy their poor product.
This way, maybe they will review their strategies, which is quantity over quality, and this is VERY BAD !

Make no mistakes, the problem is way larger than gaming industry, the same happens for music, but that's another story.

 

[Isak]

Originally posted by LordBishop
I myself was always buying legal copies until the day 75% of games were released (and still are) full of bugs and companies rely on gamers to debug their games. Unfortunately, there are too many games and they are released too fast, too buggy. Companies do not their testing as they should and this pisses gamers off.

Maybe if developers and publishers weren't ripped off by pirates, they'd be able to devote more money to developement and release games with fewer bugs - did you ever consider that?

As for myself, before buying legal copies, I download them from newsgroups and try them. If I found the game suitable I go to the store and buy it. In the past I experienced many frustrations regarding unfinished games and many times I end up spending money for nothing because poor quality products. I have many original copies that ended up in garbage because of that.

Awww, what a sad story - mea culpa, I forgot all about the god-given right you have to try out before you buy. Heck, it's great that we don't even have to think before spending our money if we just rely on warez to supply us with what we need, and then if we once in a while feel sorry enough for a developer or publisher, we'll go down and donate a few dollars to them, just for good measure - of course by the time we're done 'testing' we're probably not playing the game anymore so that little donation might accidentally never find it's way - but it's the thought that counts, right?

Incidentally, your little 'real-life drama' is like copied from every other wArEz LaMeR i've ever spoken to - do you by any chance write their dialogue??

I think you will agree with my position on that.

Of course. How could I be so blind... Thank you o' guru of applied social ethics vs. personal economy countermeasuring.

If you are jalous because you don't know how to, or where to get pirated copies it's not my problem. Buy the game, play the game and leave us be. This post does not concern people like you, so please mind your own business.

Never mind what I feel - Warez talks are not allowed in this forum dude!

I kind of agree with you that people should buy games, I'm a programmer myself and I rely on legal purchase for living.

Great - post a few of your proggies - i'd love to post them on usenet.

 

[Catt]

Originally posted by LordBishop
A little note on people like you who can't stand piracy:

[. . . .]

As for myself, before buying legal copies, I download them from newsgroups and try them. If I found the game suitable I go to the store and buy it. In the past I experienced many frustrations regarding unfinished games and many times I end up spending money for nothing because poor quality products. I have many original copies that ended up in garbage because of that.

I think you will agree with my position on that.

A convincing argument. So convincing in fact that I'm off to my local Jaguar dealer. See, I've been thinking of buying a new XJ8 Vanden Plas, but Jaguar's older reputation for a quirky (buggy?) product before Ford took over still worries me, even though initial quality is supposed to be much improved. Think I'll just take one for a week or so -- if I like it, I'll buy a legal one. No one should have a problem with that, right?

As for "minding our own business" -- this is a privately-owned forum made available to the general public on condition that the users obey the rules set by the owners. One such rule is that the site will have nothing to do with pirated software -- previously, simple references to warez have resulted in a thread closing. You are the one who should be "moinding your business" as you are violating the forum's rules, and doing so in an attempt to facilitate the use and distribution of stolen software.

Theives are generally not welcome.

 

[Cartouche Bee]

Originally posted by LordBishop
As far as I'm concerned I don't touch Warez copies. These versions are indeed problematics and can cause misinterpretations. I personnaly use ISO images, which is 99% identical than original, believe me.

Any real programmer knows 99% does not cut it when it comes to being able to run on a machine.

 

[LordBishop]

Whatever you say, this will not change anything in the fact that this is happening and it will continue to happen.

I have found the workaround and I will end up testing PTW with this copy. If and only if I'm satisfied then I'll buy it and that's it.

If this kind of talk is not allowed then why are you bothering talking about it ? Tell me. I think it's a good discussion subject and I think forums are a good place to have discussions.

I didn't tell anyone where to get copies, nor encourage people on piracy. So if you want to find someone to blame then look elsewhere.

I'm curious one one thing though. Have you ever downloaded or own mp3 that you haven't bought the rights ? I'm pretty sure you have, and I'm pretty sure many people who complains today have too. Now before judging people on this and that look at yourself.

Good day, and please don't worry... it's only a game

 

[sealman]

Originally posted by LordBishop
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I'm curious one one thing though. Have you ever downloaded or own mp3 that you haven't bought the rights ? I'm pretty sure you have, and I'm pretty sure many people who complains today have too. Now before judging people on this and that look at yourself.
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I can honestly say that, nope. I never did, never burned my own copy of a CD either. Closest I get is taping a song off of the radio when I was back in highschool.

 

[gonzo_for_civ]

Here: I'll fix everyone's problems. You are having problems because you are downloading warez versions of the program. Why don't you buy the damn program and then you have the right to complain. This stinking heap of junk is closed.