Longhorn: The Red Screen Of Death!

[ainwood]

http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/archive/2005/05/07/415335.aspx

 

[GenMarshall]

So there is a Red Screen of Death. What makes it different from the Blue Screen of Death?

 

[Thrawn]

It's red. That's the difference.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

It's a Communist conspiracy, I supposed?

 

[Volum]

Just like Super Mario!

 

[MarineCorps]

Blue was more pleaseant to the eyes.

I don't understand why M$ needs to release another OS. Unlike Win9x XP is far far more stable and better. It's not like people are demanding they make a new OS...

 

[Zakharov]

I don't understand why M$ needs to release another OS. Unlike Win9x XP is far far more stable and better. It's not like people are demanding they make a new OS...

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Is that a good enough reason?

You are right about XP though. I hope they take their time with Longhorn to make sure it works properly.

 

[taper]

I'm glad to see that instead of finishing WinFS, the programmers at Microsoft become interior decorators.

I plan on skipping Longhorn entirely, hopefully build up my Linux usage as much as possible, and use XP when I need windows until Blackcomb comes out.

 

[stormbind]

I just want to point out that XP was never a new operating system, it is just a later release in the long line of NT systems which you could have been using donkey's years ago. NT was initially derived from experience working on IBM OS/2.

NT 3.1 (is not Windows 3.1/Windows For Workgroups)
NT 3.51
NT 4.0 (aka Windows NT)
NT 5.0 (aka Windows 2000)
NT 5.1 (aka Windows XP)

 

[MarineCorps]

I just want to point out that XP was never a new operating system, it is just a later release in the long line of NT systems which you could have been using donkey's years ago. NT was initially derived from experience working on IBM OS/2.

NT 3.1 (is not Windows 3.1/Windows For Workgroups)
NT 3.5
NT 3.51
NT 4.0 (aka Windows NT)
NT 5.0 (aka Windows 2000)
NT 5.1 (aka Windows XP)

Wich would explain why XP is so much stabler then Win9x....

 

[stormbind]

Good point

My assumption is that it is, but does anyone know if Longhorn is also based on NT - and if so - what is the expected version number?

 

[MarineCorps]

Good point

My assumption is that it is, but does anyone know if Longhorn is also based on NT - and if so - what is the expected version number?

I belive they are going to start writing the code from stratch and it is not going to be based on NT. not 100% sure on that through.

 

[GenMarshall]

It's red. That's the difference.

Well, thats ovious when you look at it with just your eye

 

[Jeratain]

I don't understand why M$ needs to release another OS.

Because as time passes, new technology and software is released that changes the way users compute, and this equates to updating software that can support these upgrades and changes. Microsoft's plan has always been to release a new OS after XP within 5 years.

They are supposed to be re-writing the kernel and eliminating a lot of legacy code for Longhorn. I believe WinFS is still planned to be implemented, but that story has changed so much in the past months that I don't know anymore.

Basically, for those of you who are concerned with security, Longhorn will be a worthwhile upgrade from XP.

 

[Chairman Meow]

Good point

My assumption is that it is, but does anyone know if Longhorn is also based on NT - and if so - what is the expected version number?

It is: Windows NT 6.0

@Jeratain: If I remember correctly, they're planning to release WinFS as a service pack to Longhorn sometime in '07.

 

[GenMarshall]

Shesh, I wonder when we are going to hit an OS Singularity

 

[stormbind]

I did a search for information.

NT 5.2 (aka Windows Server 2003)

Many experts consider Longhorn to be NT 6.0 but this is - afaik - not official. Some kernel changes include: real-time multimedia playback, stricter 3D drivers to provide reliability for new GUI, TCP/IP offload, kernel-mode http... mostly front-end user features.

There were quite a few front-end graphical changes between NT 5.0 and NT 5.1 (themes) so although Longhorn might be NT 6.0, there is reason to doubt it.

 

[ainwood]

I believe Longhorn will also be released in both 32-bit and 64-bit versions. I am not keen on 'upgrading' Xp to the 64 bit version at the moment, because this means invalidating my 32-bit licence key, and, more importantly, lack of all the drivers I need in 64 bit.

By the time longhorn is released, I expect 64-bit drivers to be available. This, and largely only this, may mean I'll upgrade. At the moment, I'm happy with XP.

 

[Jeratain]

By the time longhorn is released, I expect 64-bit drivers to be available.

Should be. One of the main reason so many features of Longhorn are being pre-released for XP is so that developers will be able to write for those specific items; including the 64-bit architecture.

 

[MarineCorps]

I believe Longhorn will also be released in both 32-bit and 64-bit versions. I am not keen on 'upgrading' Xp to the 64 bit version at the moment, because this means invalidating my 32-bit licence key, and, more importantly, lack of all the drivers I need in 64 bit.

By the time longhorn is released, I expect 64-bit drivers to be available. This, and largely only this, may mean I'll upgrade. At the moment, I'm happy with XP.

From what I understand is that there are going to be several different versions of Longhorn. not Just 32 and 64 bit.