Marksman

[much2much]

Do units get Marksman even if you haven't researched the tech? Ie. Assassins?

Does Marksmen hit the weakest unit in the stack or will it prefer spellcasters? What stops me keeping warriors and scouts in a stack to take the marksman fire if it is the former?

 

[brainpan]

I checked up on this. It looks like marksmen need to be able to pick their targets, rather than automatically fire at the weakest in a stack. Otherwise, spellcasters can indeed be protected by a stack of weaker (and stronger) units.

 

[onedreamer]

Do units get Marksman even if you haven't researched the tech? Ie. Assassins?

Does Marksmen hit the weakest unit in the stack or will it prefer spellcasters? What stops me keeping warriors and scouts in a stack to take the marksman fire if it is the former?

The answers in order:

- Some units yes. Assassins, Shadows and Marksmen get this promo for free.
- It will attack the unit with current weaker strength
- Nothing stops you. But you may need workers for that, because very strong units can fall to 0.x strength and then be finished by units with marksman promotion. Particularly useful against big stacks defending in cities. The problem with using weak units to protect your stack is that they will only help you for 1-2 rounds. Not very effective if you are attacking because they will be hard to replace. Also, they cost mantenance and they will grant easy XP to the enemy assassins. So in short it's a viable tactic, but not unbalancing and doesn't undermine the importance of "under-covert" units IMO.

 

[slowcar]

if you have units with marksman, blitz and march you can destroy cover units very fast. better have somebody along who can see them.

 

[Gamestation]

- Nothing stops you. But you may need workers for that, because very strong units can fall to 0.x strength and then be finished by units with marksman promotion. Particularly useful against big stacks defending in cities. The problem with using weak units to protect your stack is that they will only help you for 1-2 rounds. Not very effective if you are attacking because they will be hard to replace. Also, they cost mantenance and they will grant easy XP to the enemy assassins. So in short it's a viable tactic, but not unbalancing and doesn't undermine the importance of "under-covert" units IMO.

Marksman is the reason why I love sending hawks in my stacks. Cheap to build, easy to send in (just rebase on to the hunter), always defends before the unit that falls to 0.x strength, does not give XP when killed by assassin.

 

[onedreamer]

wow, that's a good idea ^^

 

[kenken244]

also they can see invisible so shadows are vernable

 

[onedreamer]

who can see invisble ?

 

[Gamestation]

Hawks can see invisible now after one of the patches (I think e?).

 

[eerr]

Hawks can see invisible now after one of the patches (I think e?).

the greatest enemy is not the enemy you see, but rather, the enemy that you cannot see.

 

[Red Boxer]

the greatest enemy is not the enemy you see, but rather, the enemy that you cannot see.

That and 20th+ level vampiric knights with flurry...

 

[MagisterCultuum]

I am pretty sure that hawks seeing invisible won't be in until .22

 

[Grey Fox]

That and 20th+ level vampiric knights with flurry...

Flurry is a unit o.O, you mean Blitz right?

 

[Gamestation]

I am pretty sure that hawks seeing invisible won't be in until .22

It's in now.

Patch "e":
...
18. Hawks, Parrots and Ravens can see Shadows.
...

 

[onedreamer]

Wow, I had forgot about that... thanks Gamestation