Moonsinger Deity Level Attempt

Darkness · Nov 14, 2003

Yep, that's true. I never automate my workers until every tile in m teritory is improved and I only need to clean polution. In my current monarch level game the date is 10 AD and I already have 110 workers. So I'll probably end up with 600 or so. :eek:

All manually controlled.

And no, there's no magic button. Only automation, but that's really crappy...

Moonsinger · Nov 16, 2003

Originally posted by Veteran
and if yes isnt any way to direct all units with one movement?...like Age of Empires lets say...

Well, you can move them in one big stack from one corner of the world to another, but eventually, you have to direct them one if you want them to work right; otherwise, set your worker on automation then forget (of course, you may not like such result).

Moonsinger · Nov 16, 2003

Game Update: Here is another unusual trade treaty with Zululand. Once again, they survive with a settler in a galley somewhere. I have been trying to plant a spy during the last 15 turns but failed miserably everytime; therefore, I have no idea how many settler and how many galley they have left. One thing I know for sure is that they have no city, but they still continue to give me 191 gold per turn. Since the rest of the civ (except for the Chinese which was extremely poor) were reduced to 1 city each, the total income of all surviving AIs would hardly be over 100 gold per turn.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/ms_gold_wo_city2.jpg

PS: I'm currently searching for new teach in every 4 turns while still making about 1700 gpt. Because I have been constantly at war during the last 40 turns, my scientific civilization has just a few dozens of library for culture expansion. So far, I have not build any university and don't really see the need for it. Ever since the dawn of civilization, my Ottoman Empire has built only 1 temple, 1 courthouse, and a lot of markets and banks. Right around 1000 AD, I have over 800 workers (400 regulars and over 400 slaves) under my command in every turn (I manually control all my units). I'm so glad that most of my workers are currently sleeping. Since my world transformation was mostly completed, there aren't much left to do. Current score is around 9000 points and gaining 221 points per turn. Just about 315 more turns to go.....

IgrOK[SU] · Nov 16, 2003

221 points per turn??? It is not a mistake??? If not:
9000 + 315*221 = 78615.

superslug · Nov 16, 2003

The score per turn will definitely level off IgrOK.

Moonsinger · Nov 17, 2003

I just checked it with SirPleb's score calculator and it told me that my final score will be 38537. I still have 311 turns left to go. Hopefully, I will break 40K.

IgrOK[SU] · Nov 17, 2003

Originally posted by Moonsinger
I just checked it with SirPleb's score calculator and it told me that my final score will be 38537. I still have 311 turns left to go. Hopefully, I will break 40K.

But what is wrong in my formula?

Darkness · Nov 17, 2003

Originally posted by IgrOK

But what is wrong in my formula?

Your calculation does not account for the fact that the increase in score per turn will slowly go down and the overall score will level off. IIRC SirPleb's utility does take that into account.

Moonsinger · Nov 17, 2003

Originally posted by IgrOK
But what is wrong in my formula?

Just like Darkness said, after all your cities reaching the max population, the score per turn will start decreasing. Anyway, I think I will break 50K in this game. SirPleb's calculator is a good baseline because I know that will be least that I will get. I usually ended up with about 20% higher than his prediction. Therefore, I think I really have a good chance for the second slot on the HoF with this game. I can't wait to play again next weekend - just 311 turns to go.

Bremp · Nov 17, 2003

But what is wrong in my formula?

I will try to explain...

Moonsinger said that in 1000AD she had around 9000 points and her's score was growing 221 points per turn, so:

*990AD = 8779 points (1) = turn 214 (2) = Total score = 1878706 (1*2)
1000AD = 9000 points (1) = turn 215 (2) = Total score = 1935000 (1*2)

The Internal per turn score is 56294 (this number is the sum of (territory + specialist and content citizens + happy citizens * 2) * difficulty). It's the total score in 1000AD - total score in 990AD.

Now, if Moonsinger keep this internal per turn score from 1000AD to 2050AD, we have:

56294 * 325 (turns to go) = 18295550

This, plus the score she already had gave us:

18295550 + 1935000 = 20230550

2050 is turn 540, so:

20230550 / 540 = 37464 (projected score)

* I used the numbers that Moonsinger wrote in her post, and of course, her population is still growing in the game, so the final score will be higher.

zerksees · Nov 17, 2003

Originally posted by Moonsinger
I have been trying to plant a spy during the last 15 turns but failed miserably everytime;

Is it not true that after you fail you have to wait 6 or 7 turns before you try again, or it will always fail? I thought I read this somewhere on this web site.

Are the other stragglers (Persia and Spain) gone yet?

Moonsinger · Nov 17, 2003

Originally posted by zerksees
Is it not true that after you fail you have to wait 6 or 7 turns before you try again, or it will always fail? I thought I read this somewhere on this web site.

I don't think that is the case because I was successful in planting a spy in at least one other AI civ after failing it during the previous turn.

Are the other stragglers (Persia and Spain) gone yet?

Yes, they are completely destroyed. At least 4 of my cities flipped back to Spain after that; it took me awhile to locate their last settler and they were terminated for good.

wohmongarinf00l · Nov 18, 2003

i thought a city couldn't flip to a civilisation without a palace?

Moonsinger · Nov 18, 2003

Originally posted by wohmongarinf00l
i thought a city couldn't flip to a civilisation without a palace?

Well, it's a fact that they flip like crazy back to their former civilization even when their homeland doesn't have a palace.

Btw: I played 4 more turns last night. I'm up to 1150 AD now and gainning 231 points per turn. Since about half of my cities in prime grassland are still at size 8 or below, I'm expecting to maintain the 231 points per turn for about another 50 turns which would take me to around 25K before my point per turn starting to go down hill.

Moonsinger · Nov 21, 2003

I'm up to 1365 AD now.

According to SirPleb's calculator, it said that I will end up with 478xxx points (about 10K higher than the last prediction); therefore, I think that will be the mininum that I'm going to get. The score is increasing at a stable rate of 221 points per turn at the moment.

So far, I have completed the Longvity and Cure for Cancer. Currently, I'm doing research with 1 scientist and spend all my 9000 gpt on rushing a lot markets and hospitals in every turn. In 33 more turns, my palace will expand to ring 3. I have no choice but to let it waste another 5 tundra tiles because it's impossible for me to move it any where now.

SirPleb · Nov 21, 2003

Sounds like it is going really well Moonsinger! If you have enough population growth and happiness left to be gained, the projected score could keep going up for a while. Past 50K? And how far after that? We'll know soon I guess, good luck!

Moonsinger · Nov 23, 2003

I think you are right, SirPleb!

I think I'm going pass 54K with this one.

Currently, I'm making over 13K gpt (since another 50 stock exchange centers will be coming on line within the next 40 turns, the final gold per turn may be well over 14K).

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/ms_deity_1750ad_1.jpg

Here is a snapshot of my little empire currently in 1750AD (the ruin a few space North of the Russian capital used to be the capital of Germany; because they were a big threat to Russia, I had no choice but to terminate them):

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/ms_deity_1750ad_2.jpg

And the histograph graph:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/ms_deity_1750ad_3.jpg

During 1750AD, SirPleb score calulator predicted that the final score will be over 54K. I can't wait until next weekend to see the actual result. Overall, I think the higher domination limit does make a lot of different even when the starting location was very poor.

SirPleb · Nov 23, 2003

Wow, that's awesome Moonsinger! That should hold the high spot for a while!

Drazek · Nov 24, 2003

Hey, doesn't the map look like a huge M!

Moonsinger · Nov 24, 2003

Thanks, SirPleb!

This is it! Unless I happened to encounter another huge map with the domination limit of at least 3900 and a good starting position, I won't be doing any more milk run for awhile. I was checking out the Inca Civilization in Conquest last night. Being farming and industrious, they seem like a best choice for milking. May be I will take them out for a test drive sometimes.

@Drazek: Yes, it's a huge random map generated by PTW version 1.21f with the domination limit of 3999 which 3998 tiles are in used.

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