Ongoing Discussion of Columbia Tragedy

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I thought I would open the new thread to continue any discussion of the Columbia disaster this past weekend. It is a testimony to the concern of the fine posters in this forum that the last thread reached closing size in just four days.

Rest in Peace

Rick Husband, Kalpana Chawla, William McCool, back row, David Brown, Laurel Clark, Michael Anderson, Ilan Ramon.
 

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May they be of blessed memory.
 
God bless their souls. They reached the sky.

I will keep my avatar until NASA has come up with a credible explanation.
 
I spent the weekend thinking of this.
Isn't that picture beautifull?
This crew represents the human race in a great way.
Here we have men, women, christian, jewish, indian, black, white...
This image makes me proud of what we accomplished and what's coming for the future. Progress, science, skills, common goal, altruism, friendship... at least we'll remember them for the good reasons.
 
Originally posted by De Lorimier
I spent the weekend thinking of this.
Isn't that picture beautifull?
This crew represents the human race in a great way.
Here we have men, women, christian, jewish, indian, black, white...
This image makes me proud of what we accomplished and what's coming for the future. Progress, science, skills, common goal, altruism, friendship... at least we'll remember them for the good reasons.
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Good point. Who would have thought when JFK talking about sending people to the moon, that not only would we achieve those goals, but we achieved a level of diversity that would have been utterly unthinkable in his day. All of that in what would have been within his lifetime.
 
Very well said, De Lorimier. That crew photo has also given me a lot of inspiration and actual hope for the future of humanity.
 
Let us think about the poeple who are now closer to the stars then ever.
May we never forget your courage,proffesionalism,intelligence en progress for humanity...
 
have you ever talked to an astronaut?
I did.

he said when he was in the space, watching the Earth you dont feel anymore as a mexican, american, russian, british, etc.
you feel like a human being, for first time in your life, you forget about countries, hate and wars.
you feel you were created by God with one single mission, to fulfill your dreams and then is when you realize God exists.
 
Originally posted by Zcylen
you feel like a human being, for first time in your life, you forget about countries, hate and wars.
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I believe that...


you feel you were created by God with one single mission, to fulfill your dreams and then is when you realize God exists.
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But that's crap.

Anyway...one of my dreams is to go into space, but going there will not suddenly make me believe in God. :rolleyes: Going into space would prove to me that there is no god.

Anyway, what I hope comes from this is that NASA will create a better space shuttle. If they have no way to repair parts in space, what are they supposed to do? These questions are important, and it's unfortunate that it took this event to get people to start thinking about them.
 
I think Switch has summed up the bummer turn this thread took, lets move on...

Originally posted by Zcylen

he said when he was in the space, watching the Earth you dont feel anymore as a mexican, american, russian, british, etc.
you feel like a human being, for first time in your life, you forget about countries, hate and wars.
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If that is the case, I am lucky to have been able to have reached that feeling without going into space... but I am suddenly very keen on getting those space tourism programs we'd been debating going. That knowledge your friend went to space to find ought to be made available to every grade school kid.
 
I've always wanted to go to space. Not just because its space (for goodness sake!) but because one must expierence (as Zcylen stated) a kind of revelation up there. I mean...you are totally outside of the world, the world that has experienced so much suffering and has so much history. Even if shuttle missions are thought of as routine (as Columbia so tragically disproved), one must realize the amazing dangers they are undertaking when they lift off. But...humanity has come so far as to allow man to travel to other worlds.

I haven't even been to space, and its already making me rethink alot of things. Humanity has come so far that we can send ourselves to other worlds, and yet, we've regressed so much that there is MORE suffering (arguably) since the dawn of man.

Makes ya wonder where our priorties are and where they should be. Should we fix the problems here or travel to new worlds (your points are drawing me in, Bhargash :))? Can we do both? Should we even do both?
 
It was very sad, no? But they went out doing what they loved, after completing 16 days in space. In many ways, and I mean no disrespect in the slightest, they were lucky. There is an old Native American saying in my part of the world: He (she) died a good death.
 
Just looked at that picture again, and I was just thinking,
Gee, it's actually very spooky; none of the people on the picturea are no more. They just disappeared and no one will probably ever find them again.

That just reminds me once again, how dangerous a job these people actually took on. All of them were fully aware of the risks, but were deeply devoted to what they were doing and in the name of space research. The devotion is just breathtaking, I think.
 
Sadly, we all meet our fate in the end.

Even beside the most high triumphs of our wisdom and achievement, there is tragedy and setback.

We can console the sorrowful families and disheartened nations with this, at least:
In the end, the crew of Columbia have not died in vain.
It will compel us to improve our space capacity. To move forward to the next step.
Enabling our astronauts to continue Columbia's mission in honour of those that went before, and with such fine courage.

And to you all:
When we look out on the starry skies, we dream of a mission to rescue our entire kind.
A mission that transcends the pettiness and greed of these times.
One day, due to the determination and noble sacrifice of pioneers like Columbia's seven;
Humans will take to the cosmos and finally mature enough to reach out and grasp our destiny.

As the Sultan pointed out, the crew was illustrative of all our human kind.
That, I hope will be our future, the end of bloodshed and war, and stepping together into the stars.

Can we not treat each other with that kind of spirit, in this forum at least?

:)
 
I have had to give this thread a major enema. If it needs it again, I going to have to use the very unpleasent stuff.
 
so thats what the screaming was? but seriously I belive it was a combo of the heat tiles malfunctioning amnd the fuel tank exploding
 
Lefty, what do you mean? :confused:

I just got the issue of Time magazine today and when I read it it was very sad. Especially in an article where they talked about the astronouts and had pictures of them in space, waving and smiling. :(
 
Lefty was reffering to the threadjacking, bickering, and stunts that he deleted from this thread which had reached two pages worth. And I assume he means that rather than just cleaning up the offensive material, he will issue bans if anyone else wants to disrespect this particular thread with the kind of antics that definitely don't belong here.

If only he had not referred to the medical procedure he named...
 
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