Peace bonus:help!
- Thread starter Bachus
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There is only one civ left, with one city without a palace.
donsig
Low level intermediary
To get the peace bonus you must not be at war with any other civs. The longer there is no war the great the peace bonus will be. I think the maximum peace bonus is 100 points.
Remember, once you go to war the peace bonus is lost and you must end the wars to start accumlating the peace bouns again!
Remember, once you go to war the peace bonus is lost and you must end the wars to start accumlating the peace bouns again!
Magnus
Diplocat
I thought you got 3 points for each turn the whole world was at peace (not just you) - to a maximum of 100 points.
I am also having that problem.
I know that there has to be no combat between anybody (Barbs don't coun't) for the peace bonus to start.
In my game I have the AI down to one city, no palace and no units (I sabatoge their production every 20 turns or so to kill the unit they are working on). Yet during that entire time I never get any score added for the peace bonus.
You should get 3 points per turn that the requirments are met. I know that any combat (again, other than Barbs) wipes out any acculated score, but I have not seen it add one turn of peace to my game.
I know that whether a palace is in the last city doesn't affect it. The Pet city I had in GOTM did not have a palace and I got the peace bonus.
I also tested whether or not being at peace with the AI has any effect and it doesn't.
Nor the need for the AI to have a unit. Nor having an embassy with the AI.
Anybody else have any ideas?
I know that there has to be no combat between anybody (Barbs don't coun't) for the peace bonus to start.
In my game I have the AI down to one city, no palace and no units (I sabatoge their production every 20 turns or so to kill the unit they are working on). Yet during that entire time I never get any score added for the peace bonus.
You should get 3 points per turn that the requirments are met. I know that any combat (again, other than Barbs) wipes out any acculated score, but I have not seen it add one turn of peace to my game.
I know that whether a palace is in the last city doesn't affect it. The Pet city I had in GOTM did not have a palace and I got the peace bonus.
I also tested whether or not being at peace with the AI has any effect and it doesn't.
Nor the need for the AI to have a unit. Nor having an embassy with the AI.
Anybody else have any ideas?
donsig
Low level intermediary
Could be there has to be peace in the whole world for the bonus. Not sure. We need to hear from the experts. I can't help with GOTM IX - I was killed off early and never had to worry about the peace bonus!
Magnus
Diplocat
Well, duke, I think you are losing the peace bonus because you are using industrial sabotage against your pet civ and that is an act of war. why not change your strategy instead to merely bribing whatever unit comes out of the city, thus committing no offense.
Yes, there has to be peace on the enitre world. In my game the only people in the world are me and the pet AI city. So there is no combat on the world at all. I already know that Barbs don't count as the required global cease fire, so they aren't an issue.
I also wondered about the act of sbotaging their unit, but I only do it every 20 turns or so. So, I should get the peace bonus during the gap where I just let them sit there merely adding one shield to their production. I get no peace bonus at all. None. If I did get the bonus (that should start after I haven't touched them for a couple of turns) I would allow them to build their unit and get the extra points, but I am trying to test it out during the GOTM without breaking the rules of reloads or cheat mode. So I am not losing my peace bonus, it is simply not there.
Once GOTM9 is over I will test it out more thourghly.
I also wondered about the act of sbotaging their unit, but I only do it every 20 turns or so. So, I should get the peace bonus during the gap where I just let them sit there merely adding one shield to their production. I get no peace bonus at all. None. If I did get the bonus (that should start after I haven't touched them for a couple of turns) I would allow them to build their unit and get the extra points, but I am trying to test it out during the GOTM without breaking the rules of reloads or cheat mode. So I am not losing my peace bonus, it is simply not there.
Once GOTM9 is over I will test it out more thourghly.
Jonathan
Prince
I don't think it's a matter of no combat -- probably you have to be in a diplomatic state of peace with everyone.
You can be in a state of war even if you're not actually engaging in combat.
To see whether you're at war with anyone, look at your foreign minister.
You can be in a state of war even if you're not actually engaging in combat.
To see whether you're at war with anyone, look at your foreign minister.
Strange is that it hadn't happened (to me) before. I cannot think of anything reasonable. I would really like to hear the explanation.
Duke, I want to ask you something, what version of Civ2 do you have? I have Classic.
Perhaps I'll do some testing, but only after I finish this GOTM, so no peace bonus for me here.
Duke, I want to ask you something, what version of Civ2 do you have? I have Classic.
Perhaps I'll do some testing, but only after I finish this GOTM, so no peace bonus for me here.
Ok, this is what I did.....
I loaded my GOTM 6 at 1860AD. There is only one AI city left. I have been at peace with them for ages and already have the max 100 points for peace. I went into a revolt, attacked the city and killed their only unit. After the anarchy I went back to Monarcy and stayed in a state of 'war' with the AI. There were no attacks after the first kill. The very next turn the peace bonus started back up and added 3 points for each of the 10 turns I shot through. So actyally being at 'peace' with them doesn't seem to matter. I know that the 'no combat' is a requirement.
I have not seen this happen before in any games I have played previously either. I have MPG with the latest patch. I'm wondering if the source game is the issue. I'm going to check the other GOTM players once they submit and see if any of them got the peace bonus. Maybe it is none of us individually with the problem, but the saved game file we all used?
Hell, even in GOTM8 (which I didn't turn in because I couldn't finish it before before the deadline) my 1AD save (attached) has the peace bonus in it. That was the only game I was playing before starting GOTM9. So it was in that game.
I loaded my GOTM 6 at 1860AD. There is only one AI city left. I have been at peace with them for ages and already have the max 100 points for peace. I went into a revolt, attacked the city and killed their only unit. After the anarchy I went back to Monarcy and stayed in a state of 'war' with the AI. There were no attacks after the first kill. The very next turn the peace bonus started back up and added 3 points for each of the 10 turns I shot through. So actyally being at 'peace' with them doesn't seem to matter. I know that the 'no combat' is a requirement.
I have not seen this happen before in any games I have played previously either. I have MPG with the latest patch. I'm wondering if the source game is the issue. I'm going to check the other GOTM players once they submit and see if any of them got the peace bonus. Maybe it is none of us individually with the problem, but the saved game file we all used?
Hell, even in GOTM8 (which I didn't turn in because I couldn't finish it before before the deadline) my 1AD save (attached) has the peace bonus in it. That was the only game I was playing before starting GOTM9. So it was in that game.
LeSphinx
Bachogwa
You have to be very friendly with the last civilization.
At the first, we will often declare war.
But if you give him some tech, some money, we will start to be quiet and you will be able to have your peace Bonus!
LeSphinx
At the first, we will often declare war.
But if you give him some tech, some money, we will start to be quiet and you will be able to have your peace Bonus!
LeSphinx
The only requirement that I know of to get the peace bouns is that there can be no attacks by anyone anywhere on the map (excluding Barbs). AFAIR, it has nothing to do with how friendly you are, or if you are even at peace with them. I remember games where I was at war with several Civs, but had no combat with them for a bit and got a turn or two of the peace bonus before someone fought somewhere.
Unless something else comes up I'm just going to wait and check the other GOTM submissions and see if it happens again next GOTM.
Unless something else comes up I'm just going to wait and check the other GOTM submissions and see if it happens again next GOTM.
ferenginar
Grand Nagus
I have read somewhere that the peace bonus only applies after a particular year / turn. I think that it was turn 200, but I not certain.
Ferenginar
Ferenginar
I guess they figured people wouldn't have the AI contained by then and want to keep them alive. Oh, well. I knew it had to be some other element. I tested all the other options. I have 13 more turns before I ca even get the peace bonus then. I'm not sure I'll even get that many more turns done before the game is due. 
jc011
Rider of Rohan
i find the peace bonus very hard to keep, in my first emperor game, i had 100, then it droped down to 3!!! i don't even bother trying to keep it. 
