Really? Well that's not what I hear. Please do educate me on the matter. Are my passwords in danger? Are there virus around? Are the dangers in the same league as the sea of trojans and whatnot that haunt windows?
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Polishing Up my linux Installation.
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Jamesds
Great Scientist
No, FredLC - Linux and Windows are about the same security-wise, basically. Windows XP has good security (even though some say it is rubbish 
) and so does Linux. What matter most in these situations is that you don't use illegitimate websites, and that you check that each transaction is carried out under SSL or some kind of encryption (look for the padlock or whatever signifies this in your browser).
) and so does Linux. What matter most in these situations is that you don't use illegitimate websites, and that you check that each transaction is carried out under SSL or some kind of encryption (look for the padlock or whatever signifies this in your browser).Civ IV runs fine through WINE. In fact, a lot of games run great with WINE, some even faster than on Windows. Take a look at the appdb. Most game entries also include any special instructions for installing and/or running.
I'd strongly disagree with this. For casual desktop use - meaning internet, email, and office - I'd go with either Linux or OSX over Windows every time due to the fact that the people who most commonly use their computers purely for that purpose are also the people who most commonly end up with viruses.
No, FredLC - Linux and Windows are about the same security-wise, basically. Windows XP has good security (even though some say it is rubbish
Indeed. Anyone who bothers to run a Linux distro could also have a pretty secure Windows install. I never once had a virus, worm, trojan, etc... on Windows. However, because of the way Windows is designed, it's easier for a virus to seriously screw up your system. Most people who use a computer don't know what is and what isn't a legitimate website, and they certainly don't have a clue as to what SSL is.
I recently got tired of constantly having to fix my parents' computer due to virus problems. So this last time I saved off all of their important data, wiped Windows, and installed Ubuntu. The install took 25 minutes, everything was detected properly - which was a nice change. When installing windows I had to download drivers for their LAN card before wiping the system, otherwise I'd have no internet access with a fresh install. Furthermore, I had to find and download display drivers so that they weren't stuck with 800x600 resolution. I didn't have any of those problems with Ubuntu.
Once the system was up and running I grabbed WINE and installed Civ IV and Starcraft for my dad, since those were the only two games he played on Windows.
I haven't had fix any virus or system slowdown issues since, and thank god for that, because that's the last thing that I want to spend my free time doing.
Anyway - the point of all of this was that security is much more often a user-problem than an OS problem. One way to fix that problem is to remove ways users can screw up their own system. MS is trying to do that with the UAC stuff in Vista. Hopefully, for their sake, they're successful.
Which version of Civ, Vanilla or Warlords? Last time I checked if WINE could run Warlords it couldn't. I'm using Cedega instead.
- Civ4 Vanilla and Warlords run pretty well on my Ubuntu distro using Cedega.
- Most distro's come with a very good Office suite like Open Office so why bother using M$ stuff?
- You mean Wine or Linux in general? Wine maybe thru but the team is working hard to catch up afaik and if the M$ world would use open standards the task would be much easier.
Jamesds
Great Scientist
Goodness me - so WINE might actually work? If there are some detailed install instructions, I might find that really useful. My brother in particular wanted to use Linux because he is stuck with Windows ME (you know, the real buggy one... 
). Except he couldn't play his games, so, this might be a good solution.
Thanks for that, billT and Beam!
). Except he couldn't play his games, so, this might be a good solution.Thanks for that, billT and Beam!
Just Vanilla, as I don't own Warlords. Looking at the appdb, it looks like there's something going on with the xml stuff causing Warlords to not startup. This was originally one of the problems with Vanilla Civ, so I'd imagine it too will eventually get taken care of.
Jamesds
Great Scientist
So, does it run perfectly? Any faults? I read of some various problems with Vanilla 1.61 in appdb.
GenMarshall
High Elven ISB Capt & Ghost Agent
I think you just did!
. Luckly there are no MacOS fanboys joining the fight......yet
.I'd stick with XP, since I have a legal copy and hence no reason to give up convenience. At the same time, I will not migrate entirely to Linux, given it's WAY better price, just because I like gaming and some accessories I have (such as my MP3 player conversion tools) might be unavailable.
Same boat as me (Though I took the virtualization route insted of atempting a dual boot), I perfer XP (Since I do most of my gaming on that OS) but I don't want to migrate entirely to Linux. Then again, OS Virtualization is my hobby (I also virtualize Windows 3.1 via DOSbox, Windows 95, 98, Me, 2000, and XP Home, PCLinuxOS, and Mac OS 8 - 9 on Sheepshaver)
I posted the next to last comment for 1.61 in the appdb. Once I figured out what had to be done to show the leaderheads and show the city info (how many turns until growth, etc), it runs as well as it did on XP.
Interestingly enough, the second thing I mentioned there (and is also mentioned as a 'bug' on the appdb site) is a graphical option - 'detailed city info' I believe. I was trying all kinds of different stuff to get that info to display, but it wasn't until I searched through some threads here that I discovered it was simply an option that was disabled by default.
Jamesds
Great Scientist
billT said:
Cool - that might be an option for my brother then, he can't play Civ4 cause he has - as I said above - WinME. I think if he can run enough games and apps on WINE he will happily ditch ME!! I don't blame him
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I have no experience with Civ in combination with Wine. With Cedega it runs with only very few flaws:
- ALT and CTRL don't work but this is minor.
- Game performs best when using low or medium graphs
- Every now and then a graphical glitch freezes the game. But I trusted it enough to use my Linux box in a LAN game couple of weeks ago and guess what. The first freeze / crash was on the XP box of another player.
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