donsig
Low level intermediary
It appears that we must decide if we want free artistry or metallurgy for our gems. Another possibility would be to hold off on either deal and see if we can trade the gems to the English for something else.
Possible trades for 1130AD
- Thread starter Zur
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chiefpaco
Emperor
I have done some research into new trade possibilities, given that we can get Contact with the English from the Zulu with a ROP. This will allow us to ask for more gold from our potential trading partner. In a brief discussion with Chieftess, our honourable Trade leader, I found she was approving of these deals:
India:
Free Artistry <-> gems
WM
174 Gold
2 gpt
(thats a total of 214 gold over 20 turns)
Iroquois
Free Artistry <-> gems
WM
121 Gold
8 gpt
(thats a total of 281 gold over 20 turns)
The only reservation I have about this is keeping the Iroquois honest abut 8gpt. If they run out of money to pay for their trade, they may declare war. I'm not sure we're in danger here, but I thought I'd note it. We could bump it down to 7, possibly.
This all hinges on whether we really want Free Artistry. I suggest that we take it, because it will also get us more gold, and, even if we do not plan to build a great Theatre to honour Sir Shakespeare, we have a backup plan or switchable shield-holder. Response is requested from our citizens, and especially from the NSD and Domestic leaders and deputies.
India:
Free Artistry <-> gems
WM
174 Gold
2 gpt
(thats a total of 214 gold over 20 turns)
Iroquois
Free Artistry <-> gems
WM
121 Gold
8 gpt
(thats a total of 281 gold over 20 turns)
The only reservation I have about this is keeping the Iroquois honest abut 8gpt. If they run out of money to pay for their trade, they may declare war. I'm not sure we're in danger here, but I thought I'd note it. We could bump it down to 7, possibly.
This all hinges on whether we really want Free Artistry. I suggest that we take it, because it will also get us more gold, and, even if we do not plan to build a great Theatre to honour Sir Shakespeare, we have a backup plan or switchable shield-holder. Response is requested from our citizens, and especially from the NSD and Domestic leaders and deputies.
donsig
Low level intermediary
Since both India and the Iroquois are Most Favored Nations should we try to get as much gold from them as we can in trades or do we take a percentage of the max they will give?
chiefpaco
Emperor
Good question. According to Foreign policy, we should be accepting "Fair Deals". Since both nations are most favoured, I suggest we cut the gpt part of both deals in half, for our friends.
Everyone still on board with me?
Zur
Freaky lozur with spikes
I didn't assume you were for or against the saltpeter trade. I was just stating the pros and cons for that trade
It is up to the people to decide whether or not to go for this trade and more suggestions are always welcome!
Cyc
Looking for the door...
As Governor of Kashmir, I would recommend staying away from a deal with the Iroquois for so much gpt. I agree that if they go broke, they may declare war. I would avoid them all together and go with India.
