Puppet Civ

[dasei]

In a previous thread I proposed when a empire become too large, a group of cities create a new civ.
Is the the empire wants, the new civ will be a puppet civ, with a locked alliance (optional), locked trade, locked ROP, and a safe vote in the UN. In the other side the empire have to give the puppet civ, money (as part of trade or loans) and military unit (some units will not be available, like carrier, mechanized infantry, stealth bomber). The amount of the money is that the empire want to give, but if too abusive relationship, the puppet will be bother and break the locked trade, ROP and alliance (as probability). It´s sounds interesting to diplo matters. Examples: romans with armenians, sasanids with palmiryans, England and her commonweallth, US and South America, soviets and Warsowa pact´s countries.
If you want to steal a puppet, depends the gov, monarchy, republic and democracy have to conquest the puppet and proclaim its independence (like puppet of course). For Comunism and Fascism, it´s available to use the guerrilla unit, take a city, start a locked war (civil war) between north civ vs. south civ, east vs. west, if the rebellion is succesfull, the puppet has a new owner. All of this willbe possible without a direct war the great empires. Example: Vietnam, Cuba, Corea, etc.

 

[KrikkitTwo]

Well I'd make sure there were a variety of 'types' of Puppet Civs available, essentially having it be a group of diplomatic agreements, ie to get a peace treaty, I give you a 'protectorate' over me, or protectorate+tribute, or vassal, etc.

This would allow something like the Vichy French, as well as most of the Third World/Eastern Europe to be modeled, essentially the 'treaties' would give you some control over some aspect of their civ. (like ability to station troops in their cities, one way ROPs, you get some unit support from their cities, up to you control their trade, and pay for their maintenance, etc.)

[These would also be agreement with your cities, so it could work into the government model]

 

[dasei]

The empire will develope different relationship with puppet civ:
Locked MPP + locked trade (enough money vs. surplus resources) + loans (low interests)+ ROP + armies: Alliance like England and Canada or Australia
Locked trade (low money vs. unique resource) + loans (high interest) + ROP + armies: England and India or african countries.
Locked trade (enough money vs. surplus resources) + loans (low interest) + armies: Soviet Union and Cuba. then Cuba fought in Angola.
Sounds good for the diplomacy