Quick Thoughts on the Ljosalfar

[katika]

That's assuming you can get both Archmages and Druids, or both/all Inquisitors/High Priests and Druids. I was refuting the statement that Druids are better terraformers because Archmages take too long to get (XP). I haven't looked at the tech costs, so Druids still could come out sooner that way, but an elven leader should have no problem getting vitalizing Archmages shortly after the necessary tech.

Still, I think that the elves should probably go for Inquisitors/High Priests (and Paladins if they're good) first. That gives them two/three T4 units with the fewest techs, especially considering they'll want bloom sooner rather than later, and this will also open up more levels of the Altar so you can build your Druids with Nature III in a single turn. Once Inquisitors and High Priests are done terraforming, they have more utility than Druids unless you build many extra nature nodes, which probably is a viable strategy.

 

[kenken244]

while playin my lauaun game i canme up with a interesting counter strtegy for the ljosalfar - the rage spell, with a possible of 4 range an combined with reconing hawks, you can turn those forest stealth wodsman 2 rangers against them, the elves will never suspect it!1

 

[phoulishwan]

IIRC , the druids get buffed by nature mana, so after securing your fire mana if you keep grabbing nature sources in addition to your 2 base ones, they can get really big.

Its been a while since I've been the elves though so that may have just been Yvain.

Druids do as well, however they only get +1 per nature node, whereas Yvain gets +2.

 

[sylvanllewelyn]

So now we're talking about running the AV civic and burning enemies with fire, playing as the wood elves. Sweet.

 

[Copper Golem]

I would invent a wheel saying that sometimes in the very beginning of the game you could build improvement on the title that doesn't fits it. For example farm on cattle , if you are planing animal husbandry for later game but STILL using this square and so on. Why Elf's should be different?

 

[Darkheart]

I normally play Emperor/Huge/Epic/Raging Barb games with Amelanchier as my favourite Ljosalfar leader.

A good early tactic I've found is to push AH and use captured animals... specifically bears for and Culture and Spiders (with hidden nationality) for suppressing your neighbours. (you empty their cities of defenders and let the barbs do the capturing!). 1 or 2 giant spiders is generally enough to weaken or even destroy an early neighbour, they can be captured by scouts if you use lions or wolves to weaken them first. By the time FoL comes along (around year 250-300) you can be sitting pretty on 3 cities surrounded by the uncontested land left by the remnants of 3 or 4 dead civs which can be a wonderful barbarian training ground to get Gilden going and or an Expansionist's Paradise.

A good start is great.... a bad one for your neighbours is better!

 

[silversurfie]

I had a question in regards to playing the Ljosalfar. In previous strategys before FfH2 0.30 ive read that they can build on forests right out of the gate. But now it requires you to have iron working to build on forests. Ive searched through the release notes but i havent seen any change to this. Can someone tell me if that is how it is in the new version?

 

[brainpan]

I would invent a wheel saying that sometimes in the very beginning of the game you could build improvement on the title that doesn't fits it. For example farm on cattle , if you are planing animal husbandry for later game but STILL using this square and so on. Why Elf's should be different?

This has already been hashed through, but I can't resist offering my agreement.

Workers are an expensive item to build in the very early game, and it is imperative to use them to their full immediate potential, even if that means building farms on cattle. You pay a lot for a worker, so make the purchase worthwhile.

More to the point. Growing your civilization as quickly as possible is, in general terms, usually the best strategy for most civ leaders. Worker efficency (from turn one until aquisition of Bloom) should be far down the list of priorities for Elves.