Razing or stealing an ally's city should be penalized

[polypheus]

Say you have a defensive pact or brought in a war ally to fight against a common foe. Now the common foe has taken your city then your ally liberates that city from the common foe.

Now it seems that the ally should not raze the city or keep it for itself (or should suffer severe diplomatic penalties for doing so) but this doesn't seem to be the case. And I know that unlike in Civ 3, the game designers seem to have thought about this a little bit because when you yourself as a human player liberate a city, I believe there is a "Return the City to Orig Civ" option (in addition to raze or keep it).

I haven't myself experienced this yet in Civ 4 but I wonder if this is still the case cause I remember in Civ 4 this happened very often and was quite annoying.

 

[RameNoodle]

I haven't myself experienced this yet in Civ 4 but I wonder if this is still the case cause I remember in Civ 4 this happened very often and was quite annoying.

this sentence is contradictory, what are you trying to say?

 

[drahnier]

I somehow razed my allys city in a game without being at war with him, and it made him angry at me. ("you razed one of our cities")

It seemed to be because the only unit guarding my allys city was a unit from another civ that i was at war with, and when i killed it and entered the allied city, i got the options to raze it, keep it or return it to my ally.

By "allied", i mean a civ i was at peace with.

 

[cairo140]

i've actually seen said option (to return it to the original civilization) upon conquest, this is in v1.52. to my best reckoning abilities, for this option to appear, three conditions must be met.

1) the city must have originally have been under control of the allied civ.
2) the city must still have population of that nationality.
3) the allied civ must want the city.

hope that helped.

 

[Ebitdadada]

I saw the "Return Control of city x to its rightfull owner" option in the first version. (I returned control to Persia if you are wondering.) Like the previous poster said, you don't have to be allied with the civ, just at peace with it.

Oh, and I agree that there should be a big diplomatic penalty for not doing so, especially if you are actively allied with said civ.