Well you start by filling the galleys up with custard ...
SGOTM 04 - Fistful of Dynamite
- Thread starter AlanH
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Well you start by filling the galleys up with custard ...
Manic_
Prince
got it - playing tonight.
Manic_
Prince
Going for Optics - Caravals - Exploration & Circum bonus.
Then after astro.
We could then use mass cats/beserkers to attack another civ for a new land.
Remember, we do not want to win this game - we want to lose a space race victory.
If we give Ghandi our lands he will win space race very easily.
Turn 0.
Pressed Enter.
2 combat navy wins vs ghandi.
Turn 1.
Paper in - started on optics.
Not sure who i shoudl/not trade with. Paper not got by anyone.
I deside not to trade - as we would only get the following trade with all parties.
Optics for paper + World map.
Not that its an aweful trade, but we will be giving away our only tech lead.
Also means that others can get edu - lib.
Another navy win. we have a lot of combat 1 trireems now.
Turn 2
Continued to make military.
Looking at trade options brennus has a few nice resourses.
Crab for Corn (as krak was 1 away from heath limit)
No point getting happy res as we dont need it yet.
Traded gold for 10gpt - helps with science rate quite a lot.
Turn 3.
Hannibal looks like the best to invaide - he is the tech leader (has edu now) so we should take him out as much as possible when we get astro. Even if it is a few cities and raiding his lands.
Desided to trade paper now, as we get more for it now. World map and techs.
Paper to washington for Optics (5 turns) WM & 80 gold.
Paper to Mehmed for Theology, WM & 30 Gold.
Can only get 10 gold from Brennus so didn't bother.
Traded so gold for 7gpt to mehmet also.
With optics in i upgrade 2 trireems to caravals (one each side of continent).
It seems like the AI are on a snake like continent, with Hannibal closes (and also viable for a gally invasion).
Looks like brennus has a massive land area.
It also seems that the circum bonus has gone also.
I desided to change to engineering as we dont need astro for hanni invasion. It also leads us to guilds - gunpowder - chemistry.
Turn 4.
Not much of note.
I wouls also mention at this point all AI civs are pissed with ghandi - thus he has not been able to tech up.
Turn 5.
Ghandi attacks with landing 4 elephants near birka. Also destroying the fish,
I take most of the navy but he still has the eles there. Whipped another spear so that our defenders have some help next turn. Also routed some other military to the location - think this is the next place to fortify.
Turn 6&7.
Ghandi raided the gems - killed all eles by the next turn.
Landed more eles - they shouldnt be too much of a problem.
Left it here. Thoughts for next turn sets.
Watch out for a ghandi landing party north.
Repel invaiding ghandi troops.
Take out all of mongolia.
Get astro and invaide hannibal.
After we have a foothold on the new conti - move out militart out of our northern cities. Give them to ghandi asap - he is backwards in tech and we dont want that at all.
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Manic_
Then after astro.
We could then use mass cats/beserkers to attack another civ for a new land.
Remember, we do not want to win this game - we want to lose a space race victory.
If we give Ghandi our lands he will win space race very easily.
Turn 0.
Pressed Enter.
2 combat navy wins vs ghandi.
Turn 1.
Paper in - started on optics.
Not sure who i shoudl/not trade with. Paper not got by anyone.
I deside not to trade - as we would only get the following trade with all parties.
Optics for paper + World map.
Not that its an aweful trade, but we will be giving away our only tech lead.
Also means that others can get edu - lib.
Another navy win. we have a lot of combat 1 trireems now.
Turn 2
Continued to make military.
Looking at trade options brennus has a few nice resourses.
Crab for Corn (as krak was 1 away from heath limit)
No point getting happy res as we dont need it yet.
Traded gold for 10gpt - helps with science rate quite a lot.
Turn 3.
Hannibal looks like the best to invaide - he is the tech leader (has edu now) so we should take him out as much as possible when we get astro. Even if it is a few cities and raiding his lands.
Desided to trade paper now, as we get more for it now. World map and techs.
Paper to washington for Optics (5 turns) WM & 80 gold.
Paper to Mehmed for Theology, WM & 30 Gold.
Can only get 10 gold from Brennus so didn't bother.
Traded so gold for 7gpt to mehmet also.
With optics in i upgrade 2 trireems to caravals (one each side of continent).
It seems like the AI are on a snake like continent, with Hannibal closes (and also viable for a gally invasion).
Looks like brennus has a massive land area.
It also seems that the circum bonus has gone also.
I desided to change to engineering as we dont need astro for hanni invasion. It also leads us to guilds - gunpowder - chemistry.
Turn 4.
Not much of note.
I wouls also mention at this point all AI civs are pissed with ghandi - thus he has not been able to tech up.
Turn 5.
Ghandi attacks with landing 4 elephants near birka. Also destroying the fish,
I take most of the navy but he still has the eles there. Whipped another spear so that our defenders have some help next turn. Also routed some other military to the location - think this is the next place to fortify.
Turn 6&7.
Ghandi raided the gems - killed all eles by the next turn.
Landed more eles - they shouldnt be too much of a problem.
Left it here. Thoughts for next turn sets.
Watch out for a ghandi landing party north.
Repel invaiding ghandi troops.
Take out all of mongolia.
Get astro and invaide hannibal.
After we have a foothold on the new conti - move out militart out of our northern cities. Give them to ghandi asap - he is backwards in tech and we dont want that at all.
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Manic_
Manic_
Prince
Sorry i played 12 turns, must have muddled a few up in the post.
OK, let's go back to the roster.
Manic - Just Played
sooooo - UP
Kikinit
blid - On Deck
Ralph
Rihiter
pindicator
Hopefully Rihiter and pindicator will be able to play this round. I'll play tonight. Plan to build some trebuchets and upgrade our experienced axes/swords. May even declare war depending on how things go.
Manic - Just Played
sooooo - UP
Kikinit
blid - On Deck
Ralph
Rihiter
pindicator
Hopefully Rihiter and pindicator will be able to play this round. I'll play tonight. Plan to build some trebuchets and upgrade our experienced axes/swords. May even declare war depending on how things go.
Rihiter
Lord of War
Hi. I'm back. Unfortunatley I'm not able to play due to my graphic card disfunction (some ram is toasted, sic). I must buy a new card before I'll be able to play, will do that next week.
Gandhi being backwards technologically is indeed bad news. I think this makes spreading judaism more urgent. I didn't check if he built a shrine or not, but at least he would have religion based friends. He would automatically get MMS bonus with each civ we're warring, so Hannibal would hopefully give him some techs later on
Played 14 turns. Hired an extra scientist in Upsalla. Declared on Genghis on turn 5 (he would not give us any gold for extortion). I'll spare you the gory details, but we cleaned up. Captured 3 cities, razed 3. Only lost about 5 troops.
He has 2 cities left. Once we have galleons we can take Samarquand, and Tabriz can be razed any time because it has weak defense.
Diplomatically, I didn't (and couldn't) do anything at all. Kept research on astronomy. Main builds were trebs.
We generated 1 great scientist and 1 great general, both are unused waiting for instructions. Met the final AI, Isabella.
She is buddhism founder, not very advanced and at war with Mehmed. She would later sign peace with the Ottoman later in my turnset.
I gifted Gandhi a worker (let him capture it) to improve his northernmost city.
Blid is up now, I'll let him choose which jewish city he wants to keep. Our cities are not very happy with all the WW. I guess we prepare an invasion force for Hannibal?
He has 2 cities left. Once we have galleons we can take Samarquand, and Tabriz can be razed any time because it has weak defense.
Diplomatically, I didn't (and couldn't) do anything at all. Kept research on astronomy. Main builds were trebs.
We generated 1 great scientist and 1 great general, both are unused waiting for instructions. Met the final AI, Isabella.
She is buddhism founder, not very advanced and at war with Mehmed. She would later sign peace with the Ottoman later in my turnset.
I gifted Gandhi a worker (let him capture it) to improve his northernmost city.
Blid is up now, I'll let him choose which jewish city he wants to keep. Our cities are not very happy with all the WW. I guess we prepare an invasion force for Hannibal?
Nice to see our colors dominating the continent 
Nice jump in score too
We already have a jewish city, New Sarai and it is excellent for missionary duty
That coastal city of Genghis seems like a raze to me for now. Would see if he pays anything to delay his death
What to do with the scientist ? academy seems like good long term choice, for us now and later for Gandhi ?
Would try to play this tomorrow, if not then definitely by the week end
Nice jump in score tooWe already have a jewish city, New Sarai and it is excellent for missionary duty
That coastal city of Genghis seems like a raze to me for now. Would see if he pays anything to delay his death
What to do with the scientist ? academy seems like good long term choice, for us now and later for Gandhi ?
Would try to play this tomorrow, if not then definitely by the week end
Life's good at the moment. I am sick of hotels though and will be getting into an apartment next week.
I'm in the North-East (Teesside to be precise) so the weather is not fantastic but it's been bearable.
One of my colleagues wants to go surfing off the coast south of Middlesbrough and as I'm an Aussie and done it before he presumes I will be interested. I am, but I'm not so sure that the North Sea is a very hospitable place with the water being so freakin' cold.
I am still out of action PC wise as the laptop my co. has provided is not CIV capable. I'll let you know if that changes.
Manic_
Prince
Yeah, the only place in the UK i'd even consider surfing is in Devon or Cornwall. Way too cold in the north sea bud!
Looks cool - we spread Judaism to our main cities up north first so that they can get missionaries - we should perhaps then switch to Month so we don't need monistaries.
Before we invaide the next conti we should have 10x trebs (attack at 2 cities and 5 for each). And approx 15-20 Beserkers.
We could then take 2 cities and have a foot hold - with the next wave helping the healed 1st wave units.
Once we have got all (or most, 5-6 cities min) from hanni we should start moving all our troops south. Leaving the north free for a Ghandi invasion.
Eventually move through washington and give ghandi the south also.
We can then try and 'raid' the other civs lands to cripple their econ so ghandi will win Space easy.
Edit- Not about this weekend - Stag Do in Bristol so i'll see you guys monday.
Looks cool - we spread Judaism to our main cities up north first so that they can get missionaries - we should perhaps then switch to Month so we don't need monistaries.
Before we invaide the next conti we should have 10x trebs (attack at 2 cities and 5 for each). And approx 15-20 Beserkers.
We could then take 2 cities and have a foot hold - with the next wave helping the healed 1st wave units.
Once we have got all (or most, 5-6 cities min) from hanni we should start moving all our troops south. Leaving the north free for a Ghandi invasion.
Eventually move through washington and give ghandi the south also.
We can then try and 'raid' the other civs lands to cripple their econ so ghandi will win Space easy.
Edit- Not about this weekend - Stag Do in Bristol so i'll see you guys monday.
Manic_
Prince
Just looking also - Hanni is Conf Holy city - so that should be #1 target.
Sorry, I kept that all the week end. It was a busy one. I played in two sessions, trying to consolidate though building some units too.
IHT : cancel gems gift to Brennus. Trade for his silver (2 happiness points) and get fish from Brennus
Merge artist in Nidaros. There is a problem with the general, I don't see any productive city that should get the academy. The best candidate is Haithabu with three hills. Brogvin already has the heroic epic and would be taken by Gnadhi sometimes in the future so I don't feel like sending the general there. New Sarai is the jewish center. Karakorum feels like a cottage heaven. I send the general towards Haithabu, waiting for education to build the academy
The scientist is merged in the capital
Want to take Tiflis quickly and take some tech from Genghis. Right now, he offers music. Maybe he'll throw feudalism later
Turn 1 :
Genghis sends a treb and takes Navajo back.
Haithabu starts a trading post. Let's get use of our UB, galleons are coming
I take Navajo back and send units towards Tiflis.
Turn 2 : we have -2 at 40%. Need to do something about those finances. Grow and work cottages seems like the key, we will start to get advantage from mongolian lands soon, so I'm not too worried. Astro takes 10 turns
Hannibal discovers liberalism. 1244 AD is a nice date for an AI
Turn 3 :
Start a market in the capital.
Take Tiflis. Glad I didn't have much fighting to do, it was not my best day
I decided to keep that city, for the gold mine. Should pay for itself. It would also keep other AIs from settling our continent
Sign peace with Genghis for feudalism and a world map. At 40%, we get from -6 to +34 gold. Some trade routes must have opened
Turn 4 :
realize Hannibal settled our continent. I guess that would be the first target
whip monastery in New Sarai.
Turn 5 :
well, studying irrigation chains
Turn 6 :
Astro in. I hesitate before trading it way but finally opted for this choice :
We need guilds to build knights and philo to start researching nationalism. The downside is that Hannibal is the only one who would trade education right now but by giving him astro, I don't take much risks because the other AIs won't have much to offer him for exchange. Only Brennus is up DR on him and it's monopoly so I don't think he'll trade it away. Printing press is already known by Hannibal, so I really like nationalism right now for both the drafting and the tech trading value. Guild opens up gunpowder, a tech looooved by the AI. We trade for that, then research chemistry ourselves to kill the rifles who won't take that long before they start appearing
But something has me really worried, Gandhi has not discovered civil service yet. This stupid bastard has killed his economy sending units at us early in the game.
Turn 7 :
Gunpowder known all around but only Hannibal knows astro.
Start a second market in Uppsala
I need to rely on our newly mongolian aquisitions to build galleons but they are not ready yet. For the moment, only Haithabu is building one. Whip forge in old Sarai and queue a galleon there.
Finish session 1
Turn 8
nothing to do, so I check trades and cancel crab for corn deal with Brennus. We have our own now.
Turn 9
Nidaros : market->galleon to ferry missionaries to Brennus
Turn 10
education still not available. I beg Mehmed II for money
Turn 11
Gandhi finally adopts bureaucracy. Expect some maces to visit us.
Obs whipped in Kara. Growth in this city is spectacular
Turn 12
banking is also known now. I kill one of Gandhi's caravels with a galleon
Turn 13
Our first jewish missionary succeds in Celtic lands
Turn 14
zzzzz
Turn 15
Mehmed II is in WFYABTA. Brennus still refuses to part with education. We can get gunpowder and drama from him. Don't know if we should do that yet. I gifted gems to Washington to gain some bonuses. We don't have many partners.
Washington don't have too much lands and likes to trade. He can play a nice AI passthrough.
New Sarai just built a missionary and started another. I suggest to whip next turn, get overflow on a third and send them to Brennus. There's a galleon waiting for them. If we turn Brennus jewish, he would be Gandhi's pal and we should be able to bribe him against Isabella. Man, I hate that girl
All our army is positioned in Old Sarai. We should get a couple pikes from near by cities
We have a galleon west and two coming soon. A quick war to finish Genghis is in order to gain that island. It would be a nice stepover for attacking Hannibal. Brojgvin just finished the forge and is set nicely to build us some knights. Those guys are good against muskets and they can travel fast from Brojgvin up north.
It's easier said than done, but I think we should do it next round. This guy would get rifles soon. Speaking of that, our next tech should be chemistry. We need to trade for gunpowder. We shouldn't trade for the techs we don't need. At least, not until we get more partners. A WFYABTA from Brennus and we're stuck, knowing that Hannibal is our next target. But if Brennus does close tech trades, we should convert to confucianism. That would probably turn Mehmed II to friendly and Washington would trade again.
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IHT : cancel gems gift to Brennus. Trade for his silver (2 happiness points
) and get fish from BrennusMerge artist in Nidaros. There is a problem with the general, I don't see any productive city that should get the academy. The best candidate is Haithabu with three hills. Brogvin already has the heroic epic and would be taken by Gnadhi sometimes in the future so I don't feel like sending the general there. New Sarai is the jewish center. Karakorum feels like a cottage heaven. I send the general towards Haithabu, waiting for education to build the academy
The scientist is merged in the capital
Want to take Tiflis quickly and take some tech from Genghis. Right now, he offers music. Maybe he'll throw feudalism later
Turn 1 :
Genghis sends a treb and takes Navajo back.
Haithabu starts a trading post. Let's get use of our UB, galleons are coming
I take Navajo back and send units towards Tiflis.
Turn 2 : we have -2 at 40%. Need to do something about those finances. Grow and work cottages seems like the key, we will start to get advantage from mongolian lands soon, so I'm not too worried. Astro takes 10 turns
Hannibal discovers liberalism. 1244 AD is a nice date for an AI
Turn 3 :
Start a market in the capital.
Take Tiflis. Glad I didn't have much fighting to do, it was not my best day
I decided to keep that city, for the gold mine. Should pay for itself. It would also keep other AIs from settling our continent
Sign peace with Genghis for feudalism and a world map. At 40%, we get from -6 to +34 gold. Some trade routes must have opened
Turn 4 :
realize Hannibal settled our continent. I guess that would be the first target
whip monastery in New Sarai.
Turn 5 :
well, studying irrigation chains
Turn 6 :
Astro in. I hesitate before trading it way but finally opted for this choice :
We need guilds to build knights and philo to start researching nationalism. The downside is that Hannibal is the only one who would trade education right now but by giving him astro, I don't take much risks because the other AIs won't have much to offer him for exchange. Only Brennus is up DR on him and it's monopoly so I don't think he'll trade it away. Printing press is already known by Hannibal, so I really like nationalism right now for both the drafting and the tech trading value. Guild opens up gunpowder, a tech looooved by the AI. We trade for that, then research chemistry ourselves to kill the rifles who won't take that long before they start appearing
But something has me really worried, Gandhi has not discovered civil service yet. This stupid bastard has killed his economy sending units at us early in the game.
Turn 7 :
Gunpowder known all around but only Hannibal knows astro.
Start a second market in Uppsala
I need to rely on our newly mongolian aquisitions to build galleons but they are not ready yet. For the moment, only Haithabu is building one. Whip forge in old Sarai and queue a galleon there.
Finish session 1
Turn 8
nothing to do, so I check trades and cancel crab for corn deal with Brennus. We have our own now.
Turn 9
Nidaros : market->galleon to ferry missionaries to Brennus
Turn 10
education still not available. I beg Mehmed II for money
Turn 11
Gandhi finally adopts bureaucracy. Expect some maces to visit us.
Obs whipped in Kara. Growth in this city is spectacular
Turn 12
banking is also known now. I kill one of Gandhi's caravels with a galleon
Turn 13
Our first jewish missionary succeds in Celtic lands
Turn 14
zzzzz
Turn 15
Mehmed II is in WFYABTA. Brennus still refuses to part with education. We can get gunpowder and drama from him. Don't know if we should do that yet. I gifted gems to Washington to gain some bonuses. We don't have many partners.
Washington don't have too much lands and likes to trade. He can play a nice AI passthrough.
New Sarai just built a missionary and started another. I suggest to whip next turn, get overflow on a third and send them to Brennus. There's a galleon waiting for them. If we turn Brennus jewish, he would be Gandhi's pal and we should be able to bribe him against Isabella. Man, I hate that girl
All our army is positioned in Old Sarai. We should get a couple pikes from near by cities
We have a galleon west and two coming soon. A quick war to finish Genghis is in order to gain that island. It would be a nice stepover for attacking Hannibal. Brojgvin just finished the forge and is set nicely to build us some knights. Those guys are good against muskets and they can travel fast from Brojgvin up north.
It's easier said than done, but I think we should do it next round. This guy would get rifles soon. Speaking of that, our next tech should be chemistry. We need to trade for gunpowder. We shouldn't trade for the techs we don't need. At least, not until we get more partners. A WFYABTA from Brennus and we're stuck, knowing that Hannibal is our next target. But if Brennus does close tech trades, we should convert to confucianism. That would probably turn Mehmed II to friendly and Washington would trade again.
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I like your plans to convert Brennus. He has nice lands and would make a decent trading partner with Gandhi.
I have a feeling that Gandhi will take ages to send over enough troops to take our cities. I'm quite tempted to empty Upsalla and Birka right now, letting him have the great library. Problem is, AIs always leave a massive garrison in the city they just capture, and very unwilling to send troops to the next city. What's for sure is that we can't keep the status quo. Gandhi not even having CS when liberalism discovered? That would turn the game into a "let's kill everyone" game, which is bound not to give a good finish date.
I think I would have saved the scientist to lightbulb chemistry, but I should have said it at the time. Roster: Ralph is up.
Manic
sooooo
Kikinit
blid
Ralph - UP
Rihiter - Requests skip
pindicator - On Deck
I have a feeling that Gandhi will take ages to send over enough troops to take our cities. I'm quite tempted to empty Upsalla and Birka right now, letting him have the great library. Problem is, AIs always leave a massive garrison in the city they just capture, and very unwilling to send troops to the next city. What's for sure is that we can't keep the status quo. Gandhi not even having CS when liberalism discovered? That would turn the game into a "let's kill everyone" game, which is bound not to give a good finish date.
I think I would have saved the scientist to lightbulb chemistry, but I should have said it at the time. Roster: Ralph is up.
Manic
sooooo
Kikinit
blid
Ralph - UP
Rihiter - Requests skip
pindicator - On Deck
Ralph_Jackson
Emperor
OK the plan as I see it based on Blid's excellent analysis.
Merge GG at Haithabu
Spam jewish Missionaries and ferry them by caravel (Galleons needed for invasion of Hannibal) to Brennus to hopefully convert him (see later)
Research - complete Nationalism - trade for Gunpowder (Brennus will trade it for Astronomy) - Chemistry
Take Army from New Sarai by Galleon to conquer Samarqand and then attacking Hannibal - I would expect 2 landings at Kerkouane and Hadrametum.
Advice on the invasion gratefully received
What to do about Gandhi
It is clear he needs to drag himself out of a Tech Hole but..
No one likes him (he is in grave danger of being dog piled and wiped out)
Now when we attack Hannibal there will be some MMS bonuses so Hannibal may start trading with him but I think we absolutely need to try hard to convert Brennus to give Gandhi a chance. Note that Washington isn't a trading party option yet as they don't have contact!!
So key questions before I play (tonight or tomorrow night depending on when I get feed back)
1. Do we abandon Birka and Uppsala now to try and tempt gandhi to take them
2. Do I take the Gunpowder for Astronomy trade with Brennus?
Ralph
Merge GG at Haithabu
Spam jewish Missionaries and ferry them by caravel (Galleons needed for invasion of Hannibal) to Brennus to hopefully convert him (see later)
Research - complete Nationalism - trade for Gunpowder (Brennus will trade it for Astronomy) - Chemistry
Take Army from New Sarai by Galleon to conquer Samarqand and then attacking Hannibal - I would expect 2 landings at Kerkouane and Hadrametum.
Advice on the invasion gratefully received
What to do about Gandhi
It is clear he needs to drag himself out of a Tech Hole but..
No one likes him (he is in grave danger of being dog piled and wiped out)
Now when we attack Hannibal there will be some MMS bonuses so Hannibal may start trading with him but I think we absolutely need to try hard to convert Brennus to give Gandhi a chance. Note that Washington isn't a trading party option yet as they don't have contact!!
So key questions before I play (tonight or tomorrow night depending on when I get feed back)
1. Do we abandon Birka and Uppsala now to try and tempt gandhi to take them
2. Do I take the Gunpowder for Astronomy trade with Brennus?
Ralph
Manic_
Prince
Yeah - For GG merge with a unit. Make it ultimate city attacker.
Or save it for our new cities in Hanni land.
Basically next turnset should be to wipe out mongols.
Build up more arms to attack hanni.
The tur set after i think should attack hanni.
Once we have 2-3 cities on hanni's island we start moving units from the north.
Gift ghandi the same number of cities that we gain from hanni.
After we get about 8 we can then 'gift all'.
Getting judaism to all civs would be nice. But your right - giving ghandi a few trading partners is a must.
Or save it for our new cities in Hanni land.
Basically next turnset should be to wipe out mongols.
Build up more arms to attack hanni.
The tur set after i think should attack hanni.
Once we have 2-3 cities on hanni's island we start moving units from the north.
Gift ghandi the same number of cities that we gain from hanni.
After we get about 8 we can then 'gift all'.
Getting judaism to all civs would be nice. But your right - giving ghandi a few trading partners is a must.
Ralph_Jackson
Emperor
I like the rolling city surrender of Manic, i.e. When we have Samarqand and the first 2 of Hannibals cities we abandon Uppsala and Birka and then as we expand we abandon more...
Re the GG there are 2 tempting options.
Our City Raider 3 Catapult (which as a warlord would get a free upgrade to a trebuchet)
Or our experience 15 Berserker who would then Upgrade to a Scary grenadier when Chemistry comes in.
The question for me is would the Upgraded Treb be safe enough attacking citiies or would we be risking him in marginal fights?
Ralph
Re the GG there are 2 tempting options.
Our City Raider 3 Catapult (which as a warlord would get a free upgrade to a trebuchet)
Or our experience 15 Berserker who would then Upgrade to a Scary grenadier when Chemistry comes in.
The question for me is would the Upgraded Treb be safe enough attacking citiies or would we be risking him in marginal fights?
Ralph
Ralph_Jackson
Emperor
Just noticed we have a 19 experience Axeman who with the free upgrade would be even nastier than the Berserker..
Ironically I am wary of free upgrading our Medic Warlord Chariot to a knight as he is then more likely to be a defender..
Ralph
Ironically I am wary of free upgrading our Medic Warlord Chariot to a knight as he is then more likely to be a defender..
Ralph
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