speeding up forbidden palace

[Zachriel]

FORBIDDEN PALACE
(without a Great Leader for Rushing)

http://www.zachriel.com/ForbiddenPalace.htm

 

[Bamspeedy]

Originally posted by Theseus
Bretwalda, I'm pretty sure the cost of the Palace is fixed.

No it isn't. I just checked some saves from my HoF game.
2230 BC - 6 cities - 300 shields for Palace
1300 BC - 25 cities - 400 shields
2049 AD - 511 cities - 1000 shields (max # of cities you can have while still leaving the AI with 1, so 1000 shields is the max)

I loaded up some other saves between 2230-1300 BC and they were still 300 shields, so I'm not sure when it starts costing more than 300 shields, and at what pace it increases.

 

[satchel]

Zachriel: very, very nice. I love those webpages you prepare from your games; thanks so much for doing them.

Your page illustrates the terrific patience required to place the FP where you want it; not just patience to wait 200 turns, but patience to do the micromanaging necessary to build much more than the FP in the same 200 turns. Excellent.

 

[Zachriel]

Originally posted by satchel
patience to do the micromanaging necessary to build much more than the FP in the same 200 turns. Excellent.

Thirty turns, actually, and a heck of a lot of gold. If the heart of your Civilization is strong, then anything is possible.

 

[Grey Knight]

Originally posted by Theseus
Actually, it's pretty important to build your FP to benefit your core cities, and build your Palace further away.

I never thought about this short-term advantage, but it is a very good point!

In addition to the reasons stated above (all of which are very good), the Palace plays a key role in culture flipping, in both directions. Also, the FP costs 200 shields, and the Palace only 100...

Using capitol location as an offensive weapon in the culture war is my main reason for building the FP near my original capital and then moving the capitol. Zacharial's web page where is is building the FP in Munich is an excellent example of where building the palace would net great effects!

Also, by building the FP close to the capitol, it can be built in a city with low waste to begin with, keeping the turn cost down.

Cheers,
Shawn

 

[Lkysam]

I dont improve it because it saves time. But do you have any proof of this?

 

[Grey Knight]

Originally posted by Lkysam
I dont improve it because it saves time. But do you have any proof of this?

It was changed in 1.16f and later to be based on # of cities.

Cheers,
Shawn