The Art of War

[Håkan Eriksson]

When I was looking around on the Internet I found this quote by Sun Tzu (the real one):

The Art of War

There are 4 dangerous faults which may effect a general:

1. Recklessness which leads to deconstruction.
2. Cowardice which leads to capture.
3. A hasty temper, which can be provoked by insults.
4. A delicacy of honor which is sensitive to shame. The seeker of glory should be careless of public opinion.
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[SunTzu]

You should read the book, i've read it 5times now and still like to read it

That's why i use SunTzu as my name.

 

[addiv]

Originally posted by Håkan Eriksson
When I was looking around on the Internet I found this quote by Sun Tzu (the real one):

The Art of War

There are 4 dangerous faults which may effect a general:

1. Recklessness which leads to deconstruction.
2. Cowardice which leads to capture.
3. A hasty temper, which can be provoked by insults.
4. A delicacy of honor which is sensitive to shame. The seeker of glory should be careless of public opinion.
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   Maybe this old thread can be revived?
   
   Looks like Bush can not be accused of making faults 2 and 4.
   
   About faults 1 and 3: that is a point of discussion.
   
   I think Bush (point 3) has a bit hasty temper regarding the war on Iraq, but I can't say that has been provoked by insults...
   I don't think Bush is reckless (point 1), the U.S. will easily win this war of course and I think the aftermath of the war on Iraq will turn out allright (like Afghanistan).

 

[amadeus]

(1.) Our goal has been clear - remove Saddam Hussein from power and remove his weapons of mass destruction from Iraq and install a peaceful government that recognizes the rights of all Iraqis. We've been focused, not reckless.

(3.) If you can accuse Bush himself of having a hasty temper, surely both parties in the House and Senate must be, too, because they overwhelmingly supported the President.

 

[TrailblazingScot]

I love this:

[*]Recklessness which leads to deconstruction.

Meaning that recklessness that successes isn't covered, just the negative aspect that may arise.

[*]A hasty temper, which can be provoked by insults.

A good reason that Generals are polite gentlemen that are remote from the battlefield. Ideally on a hill in a nice white tent eating the choicest meats and drinking the finest wines.

[*]Cowardice which leads to capture.

A truism obviously. Cowardice which leads to escape and evasion of the enemy is a plus point or at least not covered in the rules

[*]A delicacy of honor which is sensitive to shame. The seeker of glory should be careless of public opinion.

Essentially do anything that will bring you closer to military victory. Not exactly compatible with the real world where if you do unto others they will do unto you or the present day where our sense of morals plays a large part in WHY we fight.

Still I do like the idea of not letting your sense of morals get in the way of doing what is right (Isaac Asimov!)


Having read Sun Tzu I determined that you don't fight near rivers and you get on the right side of every truism.

Originally posted by Håkan Eriksson
When I was looking around on the Internet I found this quote by Sun Tzu (the real one):

The Art of War

There are 4 dangerous faults which may effect a general:

1. Recklessness which leads to deconstruction.
2. Cowardice which leads to capture.
3. A hasty temper, which can be provoked by insults.
4. A delicacy of honor which is sensitive to shame. The seeker of glory should be careless of public opinion.
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[Noldodan]

WHOAH. rmsharpe did the biggest bump EVER!

 

[amadeus]

No, addiv did.

 

[Knowze Gungk]

I think Bush has the right idea, he should add his own passage in The Art Of War.

"If you wish to invade a small country, use the threat of war to make them disarm, once you are sure that you will encounter minimal resistance, declare war anyway."

Or something like that.

It's a brilliant strategy.