The BetterAI challenge!
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sveint
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Plan of attack. Having had a look at the savegame, I think it is best to proceed as follows:
1. Ships our army across while we have open borders with India
2. Place the army in the "uncultured" desert northwest of Karachi
3. Take Karachi
This would:
a) Give us a coastal city to unload troops in
b) Slowly remove the "traded with worst enemy" penalty
c) Give us a "mutual struggle" bonus
Hopefully then we should be able to avoid being the worst enemy of most of the civs. Perhaps we could even make them attack each other...
1. Ships our army across while we have open borders with India
2. Place the army in the "uncultured" desert northwest of Karachi
3. Take Karachi
This would:
a) Give us a coastal city to unload troops in
b) Slowly remove the "traded with worst enemy" penalty
c) Give us a "mutual struggle" bonus
Hopefully then we should be able to avoid being the worst enemy of most of the civs. Perhaps we could even make them attack each other...
shadyforce
Chieftain
Interesting. I always assumed that the city-workable ocean tiles had a different name, as I could have sworn I hovered over tiles in the middle of the ocean and saw them highlight with no food or commerce. I must check that when I get home. Maybe I'm going crazy.
sveint
Warlord
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Chapter 8: 1200 - 1400
Our research was proceeding at a good pace now. Here is a look inside our top research city.
We got another great scientist, this time lightbulbing Paper. Asoka gave us Guilds in trade.
Meanwhile, it looked like India was in trouble. I must admit, I am rather scared of the Mongols, if India falls, we could be next.
I decided it was time for some insurance. The Mongols received pigs as a gift. Hopefully we can get them up to cautious soon.
Kyoto built the Hanging Gardens, seeing that it only took 7 turns and none of our cities were at their cap. But from then on it would be units.
Next, the Mongolians came asking for Music in tribute (I know they want Cavalry). I decided to give in, which wasn't a bad decision - we could now trade with them.
Sadly, he would not declare war on either of the financial civs - yet. We will need him to later if we want to win, they are both far more advanced than us.
But then great news came in 1310 AD - the Mongolians had decided to take on Korea! And we didn't even have to bribe him to do it.
Our next great person was an artist. He'd only give us Drama (3 turns to research), so for now I sent him to join our reserve army, perhaps to create a great work somewhere.
Once our "continent" army was in place, it was time to strike at the lightly defended Jaipur. Taking it cost us 3 units, including the only samurai we'd had time to ship over.
Our next target, Karachi, will be much harder to take.
Techs researched: Paper (Great Scientist), Civil Service, Engineering (traded for at 3 turns left), Astronomy (underway)
Our research was proceeding at a good pace now. Here is a look inside our top research city.
We got another great scientist, this time lightbulbing Paper. Asoka gave us Guilds in trade.
Meanwhile, it looked like India was in trouble. I must admit, I am rather scared of the Mongols, if India falls, we could be next.
I decided it was time for some insurance. The Mongols received pigs as a gift. Hopefully we can get them up to cautious soon.
Kyoto built the Hanging Gardens, seeing that it only took 7 turns and none of our cities were at their cap. But from then on it would be units.
Next, the Mongolians came asking for Music in tribute (I know they want Cavalry). I decided to give in, which wasn't a bad decision - we could now trade with them.
Sadly, he would not declare war on either of the financial civs - yet. We will need him to later if we want to win, they are both far more advanced than us.
But then great news came in 1310 AD - the Mongolians had decided to take on Korea! And we didn't even have to bribe him to do it.
Our next great person was an artist. He'd only give us Drama (3 turns to research), so for now I sent him to join our reserve army, perhaps to create a great work somewhere.
Once our "continent" army was in place, it was time to strike at the lightly defended Jaipur. Taking it cost us 3 units, including the only samurai we'd had time to ship over.
Our next target, Karachi, will be much harder to take.
Techs researched: Paper (Great Scientist), Civil Service, Engineering (traded for at 3 turns left), Astronomy (underway)
thefais
Chieftain
maybe show diplomacy screen?
You neeeeeed to take out korea. He owns most of the continent, and will likely be your main competitor. My guess is Genghis's lands are W or N of Hannibals.
You neeeeeed to take out korea. He owns most of the continent, and will likely be your main competitor. My guess is Genghis's lands are W or N of Hannibals.
Galileo44
Great Scientist
yes Korea has a ton of land and with the new AI, it will not stagnate around this time. You should get some samurai and catapults and come a'knockin' on Wang Kon's door. 
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thefais
Chieftain
That's not a great diplomatic screen. Looks like you'll have to work at it to bring everyone up to a trade-able level. Plus it looks like korea's going to beat you to liberalism.
sveint
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Chapter 9: 1400 - 1600
First I sold Philosophy to Hannibal for a few hundred gold (he was the only one that didn't have it) - that got him to cautious and helped us get Astronomy quicker.
Once we got Astronomy, we traded it to Hannibal for Drama, Banking, his world map and some gold. Our economy was really starting to hurt now.
Korea traded us Education for Astronomy, and we thanked him for it by canceling all deals with him. Even though we really needed his resources and open borders for trade, it was better than getting even more negative diplomatic modifiers. He's on our list anyway, as soon as we've dealth with India.
With no real trade partners anymore, we switched to Mercantilism, which works nicely with Representation anyway.
It was almost 1500 before we took Calcutta and could move on to Delhi. Asoka fought hard and counter-attacked several times.
By now, Genghis Khan was more than happy to trade with us, Gunpowder and gold for Astronomy. We also have open borders and trades for happiness resources.
In 1529 we finally took Delhi. It had taken a century and cost us alot of trebuchets and some other units. Our economy was still struggling.
Indian cities were falling like dominos, but little else was going on. Once we got Liberalism, we switched to Free Religion and Free Speech to improve our economy somewhat. We also traded for Military Tradition.
State of the world to follow.
Techs researched: Astronomy, Printing Press, Nationalism (partly, then traded), Constitution, Liberalism
First I sold Philosophy to Hannibal for a few hundred gold (he was the only one that didn't have it) - that got him to cautious and helped us get Astronomy quicker.
Once we got Astronomy, we traded it to Hannibal for Drama, Banking, his world map and some gold. Our economy was really starting to hurt now.
Korea traded us Education for Astronomy, and we thanked him for it by canceling all deals with him. Even though we really needed his resources and open borders for trade, it was better than getting even more negative diplomatic modifiers. He's on our list anyway, as soon as we've dealth with India.
With no real trade partners anymore, we switched to Mercantilism, which works nicely with Representation anyway.
It was almost 1500 before we took Calcutta and could move on to Delhi. Asoka fought hard and counter-attacked several times.
By now, Genghis Khan was more than happy to trade with us, Gunpowder and gold for Astronomy. We also have open borders and trades for happiness resources.
In 1529 we finally took Delhi. It had taken a century and cost us alot of trebuchets and some other units. Our economy was still struggling.
Indian cities were falling like dominos, but little else was going on. Once we got Liberalism, we switched to Free Religion and Free Speech to improve our economy somewhat. We also traded for Military Tradition.
State of the world to follow.
Techs researched: Astronomy, Printing Press, Nationalism (partly, then traded), Constitution, Liberalism
sveint
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Things are certainly looking up from the end of last chapter. Sadly, our army is about to become out-dated. We'll need Infantry and Cannon to take on Korea.
Also worrysome are the Incans, who are at peace and teching away. Hannibal is both powerful militarily and doing good on research. The Mongols and Korea are both weakened by their ongoing struggle.
Galileo44
Great Scientist
Watch out for Korea racing away on tech. It looks like he has alot of grassland that will be maturing cottages. Also, he has reached the town bonuses like Printing Press and Free Speech. With his Financial trait and the Seowon he will be hard to catch in tech. Also, destroying him through military may be hard as he has 2 good allies and the protective trait.
