Troy: The Movie .. ( W o w )

3 hours of practically nothing else but battles. I loved it.:goodjob:

Some downsides: it was partly a bit slow, not badly though, and the music was terrible. The song where it sounds like a woman is singing in a hall felt ripped off from somewhere, I suspect it's from Gladiator, but am not sure. Some music gave the feeling of a comedy from the 60's.:(
 
The film was badly acted, and totally out of line with the Homeric version.

Hey, Agamemnon and Menelaos both get killed, and Achilles gets killed after the capture :lol:

But I love the Rome reference near the end: truly Hollywood!
 
calgacus said:
The film was badly acted, and totally out of line with the Homeric version.

Hey, Agamemnon and Menelaos both get killed, and Achilles gets killed after the capture :lol:

But I love the Rome reference near the end: truly Hollywood!

Americans shouldn't be allowed to make historical films, hell, Monty Python makes more historically accurate films than Hollywood :D

Well, if there are still big battles with people attacking each other with pointed sticks then I'm going to watch it ;)
 
It was excellent! Some historical innaccuracies (such as it lasting 16 days, instead of 10 years!!!) but other than those it was quite good. Truly an epic.
 
I rather enjoyed it, but I'm an ignorant American, so my opinion is best taken with a grain of salt.

As far as it not following the Illiad, I think this was a good choice. There has never been a movie that closely follows the book in which it was based, that is ever worth while.
As far as the acting, I thougt Eric Banah(sp?) was good. O'Toole is seeing his age, but invoked some sympathy. Pitt, well for a pretty boy actor, he sure as ****e held his own, though there were parts that betrayed his limitations.

Since this is NOT a historical film, I don't judge it too heavily. If you want something that is rich in feeling and intelligence, read the Illiad.

Finally, those who don't expect anything from Jollywood may be surprised. If your standards are extremely high, it would be best to not watch movies at all.

BTW, the choreography was impressive. That is the highlight. The music was poop.
 
Yoda Power said:
I haven't seen it(I'm not even sure if it's running in Denmark yet), but could somebody who have(or just knows a lot about history;)) tell me if it's complete fiction?

Opening night in Denmark: onsdag d 19. maj ;)

I´m probably gonna see it, though the CGI-sequence in the preview with the ships sailing in perfect formation looked stupid.
 
Well, I'm a non-ignorant european, who has read both the Iliad and the Odysseus, and I was blasted by the movie.

It's very "Hollywood" in the fact that the casting is impressive, and the budget was probably enormous, that the battle were giants and the scenery colossal.

But it was very "un-Hollywood" considering the (surprising but pleasant) decision of the director to make it a "humane" version of the legend. Rather to take an historical story, add plenty of SFX, magics, fireballs and make it a fantasy story, he tooks a fantasy story, removed the immortalities, gods, magic and so on, and made a "heroic historical" story.
He, basically, tried to make the "real" story, which will be the basis of the myths and legends.

I appreciated highly how the "heroes" were depicted as humans, with flaws, emotions, doubts. I also found rather refreshing to not see a movie reduced to the action parts, and enjoyed the slower sequences with character interactions and development.

The actors are perfect, and fits excellently the roles.

There was quite some changes of the storyline, but nothing bad enough to damage the story.

Great, great movie.
 
Yeah it was a good movie, I wish it had have been a little more accuarate regarding the Illiad. Here's hoping they make the Odyssey as well.
 
@Akka: You summed my thoughts very well :)

I also liked the humand aspect, the doubting heroes. It wasn't a dumb hero glorification, rather showed a quite dark side of war heroes.
Also most of the actors played very well. Bard Pitt was good as the de-illused hero, Peter O'Toole gave a great performance, especially at the scene where we asked Achilles for his sons body. Was a sad, but very importent scene.
Eric Bana gave a good Hector, showing a hero who foughts not for fame and glory, but his family and county.
Orlando Bloom was a little bit to much Legolas, and i'am somewhat bored by his two and a half facial expressions he offers. Was o.k. in LOTR, because elves aren't too emotional, but here it was somewhat limiting.
Diane Kruger looked quite nice, but thats it was. Personally i liked the other two girls more.

In summery i think the film was great. It wasn't a historical film accurate to the ilias, but who expected this eigther. It told a good story, which wasn't lost between the battles as in many other films.

[edit] And for the realist: The siege was very short in the film, but the time mentioned in the ilias (10 years) was way too long. There is IMO no way the city and the siege force would have survived so long. The city needs surrounding land for food, which would not work with a besieging army next to it. The army itself would need also food, and stealing from the land does no work 10 years long. Not to forget that diceases and epedemies where a big threatening factor to any siege. I thing any time spawn longer that a year is fictional at this time.
 
Have any of you guys seen the TV-mini "Helen of Troy" (2003)? Obviously it´s low budget compared to "Troy", but still it seems to me like a pretty decent adaptation. :)
 
Some good comments here already, especially agreeing with Akka and yoshi74 for the most part.

The movie did a nice job of staying away from the fantasy feel that the original Illiad holds central in importance. The film creators obviously did this on purpose. They wanted to give a historical look and feel. Pretty good job of reaching this goal IMO. Although the armies were computer generated, there was obviously a real effort to put real faces in those armies. I think they probably used more extras in this movie than have been usen in a long time. (This might in part explain the huge costs for this film.) You can tell the filmmakers struggled with cultural/conceptual differences. It's hard to imagine in this day and age people throwing their lives away en-masse so easily with no better edict than a king said to do so, and sometimes not even that much motivation. This isn't a bad thing though. I believe this encourages discussion among those curious about human history and ancient cultures. I think the movie is worth the price of admission, and I like it personally.
 
(well, "accuracy" is a bit hard to define when we talk about a myth/legend of the past that has been deeply fantasied ^^)
 
kittenOFchaos said:
Americans shouldn't be allowed to make historical films, hell, Monty Python makes more historically accurate films than Hollywood :D

Wasn't it done by Wolfgang Pederson, a German?
 
I'm going to see it this Wednesday. Can't wait. My expectations are high.
 
I had heard it was crap, and i'm unlikely to watch it at the movies. Sick of the new 'epic' movies.

Esckey said:
Wish they had put Gods in
or at least a mystic kind of quality ala crouching tiger.
 
It premieres this Wednesday here. I'll definitely go see it, even though many people say it sucks.
 
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