Turn 135 - 130AD

[Rik Meleet]

TF builds horseman.
Ryttyla builds pike.
Cheetah builds MDI.
Savannah builds horse.
EMP builds MDI.

C3B still lacks Feud and Ivory and Horses
CDZ still lacks Feud and Monarchy and Ivory and Iron, but most Importantly: We can trade with them over the sea and ocean !! They have extra silks. That means that they have discovered Astronomy and we are connected to them by sea !!
Or that they discovered Navigation or Magnetism and we can trade over oceans...

In the screenshot you see the possible sea-connection.

 

[Rik Meleet]

And in the north; the Immortals aren't following our horse, nor are there C3B ships approaching in the West.

In a no-ISDG related chat with a CDZ-er I mentioned that CFC and CDZ can now trade overseas. We have Ivory, they have silks. CDZ will discuss whether they are interested in such a trade. I told that if CFC wants to trade we'll propose it through official channels.

 

[Provolution]

Good call Rik, I have not written this in the letter, but will certainly make more room for a comprehensive treaty, or a backup treaty with a limited set of agreements.

At the minimum we trade luxuries 1-1 ratio.

 

[akots]

IMO, CDZ has Navigation but may be only Astronomy. They cannot have Magnetism since they need Fedualism to discover it.

Why should not we trade a luxury with them? See no reason why not. It might be, they don't need our luxury however since their citizens are already happy enough.

 

[Rik Meleet]

I have reason to believe they have just researched Astronomy. The reason is that I know CDZ loves Copernicus and they haven't started that yet.

And I'm nearly sure they want more luxes as that implies lower sci-slider.

 

[Provolution]

We need to educate CDZ very quickly that they cannot tell C3B about the new technology and to trade with them, since they will then sail to the leading Civ and break the CDZ trade monopoly, uding the Lighthouse to go Northeast to meet the leading Civ. This will persuade CDZ to embargo/boycott C3B just in order to keep them away from their continent.

 

[rcoutme]

Rik: please note the unit movements in the edited portion of my suggestions, thanks.

 

[classical_hero]

If they can trade WMs, then we know they have Navigation.

 

[classical_hero]

If I remember correctly, they met us first by the Iron Island. So they must know Navigation, or maybe the Catagonians do.

 

[Pegster]

they sent suicide galleys across the ocean

 

[DaveShack]

I don't think it is mathematically possible for them to know navigation, even with 100% research coordination with the other team (don't remember who else is in it).

How many turns until the major action starts?

 

[Rik Meleet]

Do I need to give Ivory to CDZ in the upcoming turn-play or not ?
- Of course I will not pre-accept the deal until it is ratified -

 

[RegentMan]

Go ahead and try to trade our ivory. We need the happiness.

 

[Rik Meleet]

All galleys renamed.
Springfield to Charnel.
Reloaded units and send the Christine and Laura east 1 and NE 2 from Khazad Dum. No C3B galley seen. Scouting JT goes north. C3B galley spotted !! See screenshot
FWS Worcester NE 3 spaces

Loaded all AC's and MDI's and JT into ships in KD. Free room: 6 places. Available units: 1 AC, 1 MDI, 1 settler, 1 pike.

4 horsemen in Khazad Dum moved north to the hills, forgot to rename them.

Reg warrior in TF to Charnel. AC's from Or and Charnel towards KD. Savannah horse towards KD.
Pike in Ryt towards KD. Conscript warrior who started his journey in Ryt and stopped in Fanta continues his route to Cheetahpolis. The "Borodino horse" reaches EMP.
Settler continues his journey to the West of Iron Island.

MMing.
EMP: laborer to plains.
OR: makes absolutely no difference.
Charnel: trees to grass.
Savannah: hills to mined grass.
Kamina: plains to coast.
Klixus: shield grass to other grass
Duck Pond: MM to 6 shields.
Magnopolii: coast to sci.
Zoi switched from horse to rax.
Ryttyla to galley.
Unlucky harbor: scientist.

 

[Rik Meleet]

And we've offered CDZ Ivory (not accepted by us yet). See if they return silks for it.

 

[Rik Meleet]

This is how Iron Island and our Westcore looks in turn 135.

 

[Rik Meleet]

And our westcore.

Not in a screenshot: the micromanaging + hiring of 2 scientists made it possible to get Mono in 3 turns instead of 4.