Turn 55 - 1650 BC

[FortyJ]

Cyc

I think you're taking my comments a little to the extreme. We're certainly not cowering under the threat of GCA, but prudence would dictate that if a stack of GCA units suddenly emerged from Balance of Power while our settler was en route to his destination, we should withdraw our settler as we cannot adequately defend the iron site yet from a large stack of units.

To address some of your other concerns:

1) Yes, if we go ahead to the iron site first, the gold site will be settled one turn after the iron site. I merely suggested another look at the order of our next city sites because we see no sign of a settler heading out from Balance of Power and it therefore might not be worth the risk of sending our settler so far from our current defenses.

2) Their damaged rep will be of great comfort to us as we watch the rest of this game from the sidelines. Personally, I doubt their rep will suffer much if they decide to move against us. I only hope that they don't realize this before we get our two cities established.

3) "Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first then seek to win." - Sun Tzu

We must be prepared to fight before we go looking for one.

4) The iron city site is hardly in our backyard, but your point is not lost. We need very much to epand our borders and push our enemies farther back. However, the need to protect our settlers as they travel to their destinations is no different because of their presence. If not for them, we would still need to protect them from barbarians.

 

[Cyc]

I'm sorry 40J. I'm not saying throw caution to the wind. I'm not saying we should foolishly send a Settler to its death. And I'm not taking your personal comments to the extreme. These are my views, and are said light-heartly because I realize there is not much we can do about the current situation. Shame on me.

You know me to be one of those people who speaks their mind. Sometimes I step over the line. Sometimes I just walk right up to it. I only mean to motivate, not to hurt. GCA can't be THAT far ahead of us that we need to fear them. We should have slapped them when their warriors were wounded and called it a police action. It could have worked. Now we have to live with our timidness. Oh, well. We need to decide who we are and what we're going to do.

 

[Noldodan]

Originally posted by Cyc
You know me to be one of those people who speaks their mind. Sometimes I step over the line. Sometimes I just walk right up to it. I only mean to motivate, not to hurt.

Me too, in RL and here.

 

[FortyJ]

Originally posted by Cyc
You know me to be one of those people who speaks their mind. Sometimes I step over the line. Sometimes I just walk right up to it. I only mean to motivate, not to hurt.

True enough, and I respect you for it. I've spent all day yesterday and today formatting my HD and reinstalling the software on my laptop, so I may have taken your concerns too literally myself.

GCA can't be THAT far ahead of us that we need to fear them. We should have slapped them when their warriors were wounded and called it a police action. It could have worked. Now we have to live with our timidness. Oh, well. We need to decide who we are and what we're going to do.

True again. It could've worked. But I think we're actually in a rather strong position now. Nobody can keep up with our growth rate in Shen Ling and our ability to produce settlers there is almost certainly unequalled by all our rivals (even those we have not yet met). I will be very surprised if, before my term in office is complete, GCA is not having similar discussions about what to do about the threat we pose to them, if we haven't already cleaned their clocks.