Warless victory

[elniallo]

I had this randomly the other day, I was playing as Japan on continents. I had bismarck and Washington on my continent so I figured I was going to be in for a long slog of constant war. However it didn't happen that way. I built up a decent military and just plodded along with my science. Ended up getting a science victory without anyone declaring war on me once... I was very surprised to say the least since Washington seems to declare war on me every time he can usually.
This was on king difficulty by the way, so the AI is usually aggressive

 

[joncnunn]

King is a level in which a big enough army can sometimes prevent the war.

AI is more aggressive on Emperor and especially Immortal as difficulty level also adds aggression.

There is a bit of a dice roll involved with aggression & the other factors, so you may have rolled minimum aggression possible for Bismark on that difficulty level.

(In my games Bismark is normally in love with "pretend friendship" whenever he's a neighbor)

 

[Heerlo]

Wow.Not sure if I've ever heard of a game like that.

 

[Jacques Lamerde]

I have played a few games on King level without any D.O.W's.
Last week I played a game as Korea, I did DOW, and conquer China, before meeting any one else. Then I cruised through the rest of the game, Russia, and Egypt settled near me
but I kept my military strong enough, and got far ahead enough in science, and nobody ever D.O.W.'d me. Maybe I'm just lucky. I just moved up to the next level though,
and I can't imagine a warless game at any level higher than King.

 

[Rpger29]

I can't seem to play a game anymore without several major wars. Mostly I set out intending to be peaceful, but then an AI settles right on my still-expanding border. They cop a crappy attitude even though they're the aggressors, and I end up declaring because trade relations are already shot.

 

[blasto]

sounds kinda boring

 

[The_Quasar]

I can't imagine a warless game at any level higher than King.

It can happen sometimes, although the higher the level you go, the more unlikely it is...

 

[Sherlock]

I was attacked by Harold (not a close neighbor). We'd been trading, open borders, defensive pacts, the whole 9 yards.

I had way, WAY more military than him. And he attacked me anyway. The AI in this game is too eager for war, that's for sure. So I clobbered him. War should make sense.

 

[smallfish]

(In my games Bismark is normally in love with "pretend friendship" whenever he's a neighbor)

Denounce him ASAP. Then if you want some salt on that wound, tell him not to settle near you.

I find this method will reliably produce the "covets your lands" trait in a single turn.

It can happen sometimes, although the higher the level you go, the more unlikely it is...

In the grim darkness of Immortal, there is only War.

 

[smallfish]

I was attacked by Harold (not a close neighbor). We'd been trading, open borders, defensive pacts, the whole 9 yards.

I had way, WAY more military than him. And he attacked me anyway. The AI in this game is too eager for war, that's for sure. So I clobbered him. War should make sense.

Was it just you and Harald? Did he ask for peace treaty ten turns later after you clobbered him?

Did someone pay him off to have a go at you?

 

[The_Quasar]

In the grim darkness of Immortal, there is only War.

This is not true... I have had a warless game at Immortal... but it is very unusual...

 

[Rpger29]

You can get some warless cultural victories on Immortal. I think someone even mentioned a warless OCC Deity win not too long ago. IIRC they had to use bribes to do it.

 

[JamesCivFan]

I have had an OCC cultural Victory on turn 315 with Egypt a few months ago, Continents, Deity, in which no one declared on me. Neighbors were Washington and Darius. I was constantly bribing them into Declaring to each other, so in the end they pretty much left me alone to cruise my way to victory. Pretty good game, and my first Deity win back then.

 

[dcboy60]

I have played at least two games on King level and won cultural victories without one declaration of war. It is almost boring. I have found it pretty easy to defend against other Civ's attacks the great majority of the time. I haven't tried any levels above King yet however. I have found it difficult to invade across water. Invading across land is not as difficult as long as I have enough units and the right mix of units (ranged attacks combined with melee units).

 

[ense7en]

Location is huge.

I'm on a Pangea map in my current Emperor Arabia game.

I started on the northish side with Babylon north of me with a nice row of three city states in between me and and everyone else on the south.

Babylon attacked me, of course.
I really didn't want to take out Babylon completely, but i knew if i didn't, they be a constant annoyance, so i wiped them out to keep the entire northern section to myself.
This was relatively early on.

What's funny is how ever since then i've not attacked anyone other than jacking one worker from a city state, and the entire rest of the world hates me from being a warmongering menace (even though i've been in no other war all game).

They keep randomly going from friendly to guarded to hostile and denouncing me, but they've not tried to attack me through the city state buffer yet and it's getting close to the end of the game.

 

[The Pilgrim]

It's all about map. If you have relatively isolated start and not the most bloodthirsty opponents, your chances are better, assuming it can be considered as better. I had two warless games in a row on deity. Can't say they were boring only due to my constant fear the lovefest will be over and RA's broken. And then it was back to normal again and I was torn to shreds with early dogpiling.