What do you want to see?

[CivPartisan]

I know that there are a lot of ideas out there, so I thought I would get some input on some of the things that people would like to see in mods or scenarios...

Actually, this can cover just about any ground you want to talk about from scenario ideas to things you wish could do but have never been able to achieve...

There is plenty of challenge out there...so what would you like to see?

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[willemvanoranje]

Star Trek scenarios/modpacks (the more the better)
WW II scenarios (idem dito)
Fanatsy scenarios/modpacks (like Midgard)



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[SunTzu]

more WW2 scenarios and Vietnam war scenarios and idon't want no sorry scenarios i want high quality scenarios. WE WANT VIETNAM!

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[Arius]

things you wish could do but have never been able to achieve

Well, I don't know if this is possible with the Civ2-engine, but I would like to make a city improvement required for the production of a certain unit.

Examples:
-Only cities with the Factory improvement can build Armour units.
-Only cities with the Manufacturing Plant improvement may build SpaceShip parts.
-Only cities with the Port Facility may build Battleships and Subs.

I doubt that this is possible, but it would be great if someone could figure out a way to do it.

-Arius

 

[willemvanoranje]

You can do it with an event:
You can do it like this, if a city builds a factory, a unit is created, or a technology given, something like "Panzer II Design"

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[willemvanoranje]

You really have a good idea, I must say. I never thought about something like that.

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[kobayashi]

Originally posted by willemvanoranje:
You can do it with an event:
You can do it like this, if a city builds a factory, a unit is created, or a technology given, something like "Panzer II Design"

If a city builds a XXX (improvement or unit) is not a valid event trigger.

The closest thing I can think of right now is to set a city to building something and then removing the enabling technology from the race. The city will continue to build the unbuildiable unit until the owner changes it to something else. This has been used in many scenarios like JM's Third Reich and the Lord of the RIngs.

 

[willemvanoranje]

I thought it was something like:

@IF
BestowImprovement
Improvement=factory (I don't know the number)
@THEN
GiveTechnology
technology= number (no. of "Panzer II Design")
@ENDIF

or

@THEN
CreateUnit
Unit=Panzer II
etc.
etc.

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[Circee]

Hummmmmmmm where did you found thi strigger?

Personnaly, I want to see fantastic empire-building scenarios.

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[Arius]

Originally posted by willemvanoranje:
You can do it with an event:
You can do it like this, if a city builds a factory, a unit is created...

Ok... but then you would only get the unit the first time you built the factory! What I meant was that say you have 4 cities, 2 with factories, 2 without. Now, the 2 cities w. factory could be set to build tanks, but in the other 2, tanks are not allowed.

Kind of in the same way that inland cities can't build naval units...

Getting the technology when building your first factory is a very good idea (that way your empire has at least 1 factory!), but not quite what I was looking for.

For example, I would like it to be so that if your spy sabotaged the enemy Factory, he would not be able to build more tanks until he rebuilds the factory.

Like I said, I doubt it can be done in a practical way...

But hey, you ideas were still quite good.

-Arius

 

[oryx]

For anyone who is confused by this discussion:
willemvanoranje is talking about Test of Time which added several new triggers and actions to the events language.

kobayashi is talking about FW/MGE events.

Although they sound like they are contradicting each other, both are right.

Arius, these are all good ideas for CIV III.

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[CivPartisan]

Well, there could be some changes done maybe to make this happen...we have to quit thinking in 2 dimensions and start thinking in three...

Arius you said:
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Examples:
-Only cities with the Factory improvement can build Armour units.
-Only cities with the Manufacturing Plant improvement may build SpaceShip parts.
-Only cities with the Port Facility may build Battleships and Subs.
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perhaps by taking the parameters of the "MAP" into consideration and the attributes of the unit...then, we could change the land terrain to "sea" and the sea terrain to "land" and place land squares in the some of the resource sections and call 'em "isles"

Here is where your cities can build the tanks...tanks can only be build by coastal cities on isles in hiding away from your enemies or close to ports (ships would actually be ground units because the map is reversed) and only using the "port facility" changed to the name "factory".

the only problem is that this would reverse all other unit aspects, but you might be able to have "oil tankers" for trade and no way to found cities except on the little isles!

not much of an idea is it?

I actually saw a scenario in which the land/sea graphics were reversed...I doubt I can find it on my harddrive but I can try...

John