What If..... Henry the V had lived to old age

[Constantine]

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Fresh of a game of the English Dmonating Euorpe in Medieval Total war I was wondering what if Henry V had lived longer and conslidatied France under English rule would the united Kingdom of England and Frnace lasted Longer? More Agincourts and Great Victories? What do you think. Any 100 YEars war Buffs out there.

Would Engalnd become even greater still

 

[onejayhawk]

I doubt that anyone will ever again see an Agincourt, though Midway in WWII comes close. I think it ins=disputable that England would have been greater, if for no reason than Henry VI would not have ascended the throne as early as he did. His reign rought incalculable trouble to the British. Had Henry V had time to consolidate his hold on France, at least some portions of the continent would be part of UK today.

That means the war of French independance goes otherwise. No Joan, No RIII or at lest most likely not, but also no Elizabeth. How do you measure the loss of Europe's greatest monarch? OK I dont know. Satisfied?

J

 

[Mongoloid Cow]

I doubt there never would be another Agincourt either. What needed to happen was for the English to be able to consolidate power in Normandy. Needless to say they didn't do a good job. Though there might still be a Joan of Arc, if you believe the myths and stories at that time.

 

[redtom]

We would financially ruined keeping France.

 

[Remorseless]

Shakespeare's great play would have been MUCH longer.

Don't know about the rest, Constantine. Royal governments were notoriously unstable, still are as a matter of fact, and an overlooked part of the Joan of Arc legend is her appeal to the common Frenchman, which heralded the end of the old feudal system with the new national armies. I think the common French peasant would have gotten sick of their kings a little sooner, since they were unable to eject the English pigs (just kidding) from the continent.

And the reason I doubt there would have been any more Agincourts was the dawning of vile gunpowder. Even as late as the mid-18th Century, the longbow was technically a better weapon with a much higher rate of fire. But it took about six weeks to teach a trooper to be proficient in the use of gunpowder, while it took years to develop an equally-proficient longbowman.