What if I never attack anyone?

[TopAlwaysDown]

Hi,

In the effort to "try something different," I am playing a game where I never use a military unit to attack anything. I just defend and use diplomats to take what I want. I also always give them the Advance that they ask for when their King approaches me.

My question is, does the computer "learn" that I am a pushover, and thus ask for more things more frequently? If I occasionally said "no" or attacked their capitol with some military just once to scare them, would that lessen the frequency of their king coming to ask for more stuff?

Thanks,

Steve

 

[civ2]

NO!!!
The AI DOESN'T LEARN ANYTHING!
I used this strategy many times and successfully bought the ENTIRE planet without a single war!!!
You have to sign peace treaties every time they ask but you can break it several times during the SAME turn!
Just look out not to be close to there attack forces.
(Well I also enabled cheats to see whether they have any fast units near my diplomats. )

 

[Zwelgje]

Thats in civ2, in civ1 you can't cheat.

 

[punkbass2000]

Uh, no. You can certainly cheat in Civ1. Very easy with a hex editor.

 

[Zwelgje]

That must be in civdos then, in winciv I've never heard anybody do it.

 

[GoldBerg]

*posting mistake*

sorry

 

[GoldBerg]

... ... The AI DOESN'T LEARN ANYTHING!

yeah, sure, we know - but it's an idea i always had while playing civ.1 way back a long time ago - nowadays it would be no problem to program JUST THAT as a real interesting addition to the game!

I used this strategy many times and successfully bought the ENTIRE planet without a single war!

same here.

You have to sign peace treaties every time they ask but you can break it several times during the SAME turn!

thanks for this info - another thing i'd never discover...

 

[GoldBerg]

Uh, no. You can certainly cheat in Civ1. Very easy with a hex editor.

there is a
CiVEDiTOR --> CivED
for CiVDOS (all versions)

you can use with

win3.**
win95
win98se
winME

you can download here (very small, zipped)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2329391&postcount=24

...with that tool you can cheat E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-i-N-G
in CiV.1...

 

[civ2]

Hmmm...
CHEAT: (SHIFT)1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 [sometimes even 5-6-7-8 or less?]
This makes the whole planet visible after a mouse-click.
You can go into ANY city and SELL their structures; change placement of "people" on city map; and of course then you can see where the main forces are!!!
And if you have a needed Wonder (can't remember - something like Great Wall?) - well then the AI MUST ask for peace...
And you CAN sign it every time AFTER buying a city BEFORE buying another one.
Just create some 5-6 diplomats and put them next to several cities.
You will get a peace-signing question every time you buy a city and then move with another diplomat to buy a next one - e.g. contact.
You don't have to Hex-cheat - just to press a few buttons!!!
It's a pity that you can't do THAT in Civ2...

 

[GoldBerg]

Hmmm...
CHEAT: (SHIFT)1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 [sometimes even 5-6-7-8 or less?]
This makes the whole planet visible after a mouse-click.
You can go into ANY city and SELL their structures; change placement of "people" on city map; and of course then you can see where the main forces are
... ...

wasn't this just a cheat menu for civ.exe 474.01 ?
(some kind of fragment from the test phase of game development...?)
i only have 474.03, 474.04 and 474.05 ...

but -
if a cheat is THAT easy i would be in danger to use it every time -
so it's better to stay at 474.05...

 

[Conrino]

Cheating? Nasty little cheaters. Go ahead ruin the fundamental nature of CIV2. You put the "zati" in " Civilization". You break my heart.

 

[punkbass2000]

What does 'zati' mean?

 

[Conrino]

Nothing at all actually. I just made it up in jest. You still break my heart though