Where the "Fail Quest if a rival completes first" conditions at? [Solved by workaround]

[BlitzCon]

Hi.
Apparently my quick/newbie question was too advanced to be answered, so I risk it and ask here:

I attempted to create a new Quest. Nothing too hard, just mostly copy-pasting and editing existing quests.
And everything worked. Well, all but one thing:

The quest does not fail if a rival completes it first.

So I tried to look where that condition lies in the files, and, to my great confusion, I failed to find that condition from any quest. Despite the fact that I know that most quests fail when a rival fulfills the condition of Building Units/Buildings first. Hell, most of the Quests do not even have an expire python check at all!

So, my not-so-apparently-quick question would be: in which file and where the "fail if rival first" conditions are so that I can copy->paste->edit one for my quest?


Some may notice that this got posted elsewhere already. Those places were unintentional, I have no idea how this thread could possibly get to wrong forum repeatedly.

 

[BlitzCon]

Well, went around the issue by recreating the condition as an expire check, like this:

def expireSpymaster1(argsList):
iEvent = argsList[0]
kTriggeredData = argsList[1]
iSpy = CvUtil.findInfoTypeNum(gc.getUnitClassInfo, gc.getNumUnitClassInfos(), 'UNITCLASS_SPY')
iSpiesRequired = gc.getWorldInfo(gc.getMap().getWorldSize()).getDefaultPlayers()
for iPlayer in range(gc.getMAX_CIV_PLAYERS()):
loopPlayer = gc.getPlayer(iPlayer)
if loopPlayer.isAlive() and iPlayer != kTriggeredData.ePlayer:
if loopPlayer.getUnitClassCount(iSpy) > (iSpiesRequired - 1):
return true

return false


This worked just fine.
Though I still would like to know where the original Quests have that specific condition saved.

 

[Vokarya]

It looks to me like quest failure is done in concert between the quest event and the completion events. A quest requires 2 triggers: beginning the quest and completing the quest, and 1+X events: beginning the quest and X outcomes for the quest.

The beginning event (not its trigger) needs to have <bQuest> set to 1. The trigger for the completion events needs to have <bGlobal> set to 1 and the beginning event as a <PrereqEvents>. The outcome events need to have <bQuest> set to 0, <bGlobal> set to 1, and a <ClearEvents> set to clear the beginning event.

The combination of <bGlobal> on the completion trigger and <bGlobal> and <ClearEvents> on the outcome events is what causes everyone else to fail the quest. <bGlobal> on the completion trigger means anyone can do the quest once the original event has happened. <bGlobal> on the outcome event means that once that event happens, it clears the original quest-beginning event for everyone, so no one else can complete it. That causes the failure.

I would check all of those areas, and if you are still having trouble, post your XML for the events.

 

[BlitzCon]

The beginning event (not its trigger) needs to have <bQuest> set to 1. The trigger for the completion events needs to have <bGlobal> set to 1 and the beginning event as a <PrereqEvents>. The outcome events need to have <bQuest> set to 0, <bGlobal> set to 1, and a <ClearEvents> set to clear the beginning event.

The combination of <bGlobal> on the completion trigger and <bGlobal> and <ClearEvents> on the outcome events is what causes everyone else to fail the quest. <bGlobal> on the completion trigger means anyone can do the quest once the original event has happened. <bGlobal> on the outcome event means that once that event happens, it clears the original quest-beginning event for everyone, so no one else can complete it. That causes the failure.

Thanks for this, I´ll have to try that.