Zakharov - No tech brokering? Pffft.

[King Flevance]

I would like to know if this works so that he can trade away techs he is given, or he can trade for techs others have been given. Or both. I have been assuming both. So this whole thread will be about if it were both.

I kill him as soon as I find him if I am not playing him since I turn off no tech brokering for a reason. If it is both, I would like to know how to remove this from his traits as I can't find it. I have only been looking in the xml under TraitInfos as it doesn't seem to be a benefit to his HQ or governers office. I don't like having to rush to find him to kill him and since I have been playing this mod alot lately - pretty exclusively actually, I figured I would rather nip this in the bud sooner than later.

If it is both I ain't sure the reasoning behind this although I wouldn't mind reading the discussion about this if there was one. Personally, I don't like this part of his traits as I feel the +20% science is pretty strong as is - since he can run at 120% science provided he knows how to run an economy and/or is in the hands of a player. And the plus 1 beaker per scientist. This is a very strong tech advantage alone and when merged with factions being more willing to trade with him makes him more of a tech whore than mansa musa. All of these provide a strong senergy together but the added synergy of breaking a "ground rule" is the lethal blow for me. No tech brokering synergizes with both the factions being more willing to trade AND the 120+% research.

 

[AnotherPacifist]

I routinely out-tech everybody with Planetary Datalinks, even in emperor. No need to kill specifically Zach, but if he's one that my chopper meets initially, too bad for him. (he can actually be a nice little vassal to research stuff that make the 3rd faction for the Planetary Datalinks)

 

[Pfeffersack]

I would like to know if this works so that he can trade away techs he is given, or he can trade for techs others have been given. Or both. I have been assuming both. So this whole thread will be about if it were both.

I kill him as soon as I find him if I am not playing him since I turn off no tech brokering for a reason. If it is both, I would like to know how to remove this from his traits as I can't find it. I have only been looking in the xml under TraitInfos as it doesn't seem to be a benefit to his HQ or governers office. I don't like having to rush to find him to kill him and since I have been playing this mod alot lately - pretty exclusively actually, I figured I would rather nip this in the bud sooner than later.

If it is both I ain't sure the reasoning behind this although I wouldn't mind reading the discussion about this if there was one. Personally, I don't like this part of his traits as I feel the +20% science is pretty strong as is - since he can run at 120% science provided he knows how to run an economy and/or is in the hands of a player. And the plus 1 beaker per scientist. This is a very strong tech advantage alone and when merged with factions being more willing to trade with him makes him more of a tech whore than mansa musa. All of these provide a strong senergy together but the added synergy of breaking a "ground rule" is the lethal blow for me. No tech brokering synergizes with both the factions being more willing to trade AND the 120+% research.

The feature was added here:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=253775&page=13 (#251)

21. Factions are more willing to trade tech with Zakharov, even at lower relations. 22. Zakharov can ignore the "no tech brokering" restrictions.

In my experience - and thats also what the changelog indicates - it is only Zhakarov who ignores it. He can trade away what you have traded him, but his power doesn't go as far that you can trade him, what you cannot trade with others. What however works in both directions is the relation thing: He will trade with you and other AIs, even if he does not like his partner and other AIs are more willing to trade with him, even if they don't like him.

Here is a bit of discussion about this feature:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=330050&page=13 (from #253 on)

I share the experience that Zhak is a tech powerhouse, he usually ends up to be first in score (or at least 2nd/3rd). Since score is about tech, it is no wonder... Without the doubt, he is designed to be that way. It is just a question if this happens to the right extend. He is also prone to be the winning, usually by subspace generator. I'm undecided if a change is needed here.