The Sound of Drums - A British Hearts of Iron II AAR

Whenever I seem to play form '36, yes it leads to an interesting game with so much to do- but does anyone ever get to '39 and enter into war whole-heartedly only to find they'd missed some critical detail, that their glorious plans need a serious rethink, and it leaves you thinking "what a waste of three years"

Or is that just me?
 
Whenever I seem to play form '36, yes it leads to an interesting game with so much to do- but does anyone ever get to '39 and enter into war whole-heartedly only to find they'd missed some critical detail, that their glorious plans need a serious rethink, and it leaves you thinking "what a waste of three years"

Or is that just me?
I've done that a few times.

As Germany I think it's best to always build alot of factories at the start (between 20 and 30), get your IC up, then whilst building a nice invasion force remember to build some infrantry to guard the border with France, there's been a couple of games before where I was facing a French invasion over the Maginot line because i'd neglected my defense!

As Japan i've neglected my Navy before in the early game (big mistake if you ever want to fight the Americans!), and in another game not bothered with that many factories (my TC ended up really rubbish!).
 
I normally save it lots of times, just in case, you know, the entire RN Home fleet get sunk, or I forget something..
Though playing as Canada means mistakes are less costly, though the AI is not always so smart (as mentioned above).

I am experimenting atm. It is the end of '39 and I took military control of France, brought up all their troops in Africa and before Germany invades I might give military control back.. But I want to see if the extra 10 divisions or so will make a difference..
 
Alot depends n how ou wish to play as well. I normally try and play historically up intill the end of 1941 (aka up intill when during the real war the tide was in favour of the Axis).
 
Yes, I guess. I always, so far take Canada or the UK and try to play it historically, though it is hard when the AI does not want to. :p
 
Whenever I seem to play form '36, yes it leads to an interesting game with so much to do- but does anyone ever get to '39 and enter into war whole-heartedly only to find they'd missed some critical detail, that their glorious plans need a serious rethink, and it leaves you thinking "what a waste of three years"

Or is that just me?

Indeed! And one of the beautiful things about a slow moving AAR is that I'm finding myself able to notice these details, like building up the airforce, attaching brigades and focusing research properly.

I've done that a few times.

As Germany I think it's best to always build alot of factories at the start (between 20 and 30), get your IC up, then whilst building a nice invasion force remember to build some infrantry to guard the border with France, there's been a couple of games before where I was facing a French invasion over the Maginot line because i'd neglected my defense!

I've never built factories as Germany (you conquer, not build). Focus that IC instead into building your land/air forces

I place all my initial troops on the eastern fronts, then build up a sizeable force in the pre-war years in the west. Invade Poland as planned then shift the bulk of my force west, invade France as planned (hell, conquer Poland fast enough and get it done before the winter!) then reshift east to take on Russia while building up the Atlantik Wall.

As Japan i've neglected my Navy before in the early game (big mistake if you ever want to fight the Americans!), and in another game not bothered with that many factories (my TC ended up really rubbish!).

I usually find that the bigger countries (Germany/USSR/USA) don't actually require building factories, and the others (such as UK, Japan) are the same if you play your cards right. Always remember what you want to do with your country, and that if you're going to be gaining factories through conquest, then focus that initial IC into boosting your military, not factories.
 
The Sound of Drums - A British Hearts of Iron AAR
Part Fourteen


30th September - 31st December 1938


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If Nodikus, Chief of Army, could dream, it would be of a land force that was equal across the entire British Empire. At the moment India was short of standing armies at a time that Japan was battling its way across China, at a time that the Soviet Union eyed up the potential for pushing into Iran and threatening British interests in the Middle East, at a time that the situation in Europe demanded that all funding devoted to his forces be spent on building up the British and Egyptian forces.

And of this he couldn’t complain. The British Expeditionary Force - ready to be deployed at a moments notice - was seven divisions strong. Egypt Command was being reinforced by the day, and for the past year equalled (in numbers) their Italian counterparts. Artillery, anti-tank and anti-air brigades were being constructed by the month, and he had been assured that Stuart Mark V. and Matilda tanks would be built within the year could be deployed anywhere in the European theatre. His armies were stretched, but they were well trained, and in the next year would be well-equipped to deal with any foe.

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If Chief E350tb, Chief of the RAF could dream, it would be of an airforce in which every air wing overlapped each others airspace from hallowed London to beloved Delhi. However, it was only within this past year that the RAF had received serious funding towards building up a dedicated force, and it was only within the last few months that the British Home Isles itself could be considered safe. Two Spitfire and two Hurricane wings defended the isles, along with a series of RADAR and Anti-Aircraft batteries in Britain’s chief cities.

However Egypt and India remained poorly defended. Dilapidated aircraft lay dormant on poorly managed airfields, if they were present at all. Yet 1939 was coming and the airforce was promised better funding, particularly given the poor end-of-year statistics for the strength of the British Royal Air Force. Spitfire wings were under construction, Parliament greatly wanted new strategic bombers, and a great debate raged over whether close-air-support wings should begin development!

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If Chief Pugwash could dream, it would be that there was no gap between the most recent deployment of his fleets, and that no other nation, be it friends such as the U.S.A. or rivals such as Japan, could dare catch up with the most renowned navy of the world. As it stood, he knew that for the next year he would have many restless nights as the Royal Navy prepared to upgrade itself.

But he could not complain! Britannia still ruled the waves, from the Atlantic to the North Sea, from the Mediterranean to the Indian Ocean to the Pacific! The Italians remained the biggest threat, and there were no protests that the Royal Navy could not withstand them. The Germans were building a submarine fleet, and Parliament had responded by ordering destroyer fleets specifically designed towards anti-submarine missions. Britannia would continue to rule the waves.


If Chief Peck of Arabia could dream, it would be that his three chiefs of staff would stop coming to him with new problems. Alas, for it would never be…
 
If Peck thinks were complaining now, wait until an actual war breaks out. How many tank divisions are being produced?
 
I'm sorry to go out of my place right now, but I personally believe that this parliament should immediatly declare war, should Germany 'finish the job' in Czechoslavakia.

I would also recommend Wellingtons as our strategic bomber choice.

(What do we have as far as bombers are concerned.)
 
If Czechoslovakia, or any other nation on the face of God's green Earth, come under the hostility of the German nation then we should by all means commit every resource available to us to see to it that the hostile force is neutralised. Full stop. To do elsewise would be to impugn our own fortitude, indeed the very word of our sacred honour, which ties us together as the nation of Britannia.

If this Government is seen to vasillate, to compromise its clearly-laid principles, then we shall lose the respect not only of the international community but also of the very first people we're employed to represent and at all times keep in mind--the citizenry of the United Kingdom and all the Queen's subjects, from Tuktoyaktuk to Guyana to the Christmas Islands to the Cape of Good Hope and all the lands in between. The Imperial Defence Council thus must urge for peace at any price save one; the price of breaking our terms.
 
If Peck thinks were complaining now, wait until an actual war breaks out. How many tank divisions are being produced?

By the end of 1939 we will have 3 Stuart Mk.V light tanks, at least one of which will be deployed in the B.E.F. By February 1939 we will have our first Matilda heavy tank brigade, which will be attached to our forces in Africa. I believe more of these might be constructed as well.

I would also recommend Wellingtons as our strategic bomber choice.

(What do we have as far as bombers are concerned.)

We have the Vickers Wellington bombers, mostly based in Britain, though the end-of-year report coming up will give a better description.

We have the ability to begin research into Handley Page Halifax bombers, which will upgrade the fleet soon enough.


I'm sorry to go out of my place right now, but I personally believe that this parliament should immediatly declare war, should Germany 'finish the job' in Czechoslavakia.

If Czechoslovakia, or any other nation on the face of God's green Earth, come under the hostility of the German nation then we should by all means commit every resource available to us to see to it that the hostile force is neutralised. Full stop. To do elsewise would be to impugn our own fortitude, indeed the very word of our sacred honour, which ties us together as the nation of Britannia.

At present our main inability to put fear into Germany lies with Mr. Daladier of France, as well as our own public's perception that we have achieved peace in our time. If we immediately wage war on Germany should they press into Czechoslovakia, then we will probably see major dissent - if not full scale rioting - in protest.

My plan at present is, should Germany annex Czechoslovakia, to simply cut as many ties that we have with them and issue full protests. We shall make defensive pacts with any nation that may be threatened by Germany in future (I would presume this to be Poland, Denmark, possibly Hungary) and, if Mr. Daladier will allow it, we shall begin deploying parts of the B.E.F. to France.

[OOC] At present we actually cannot actually declare war on Germany, and I'm not even sure if we're allowed to put our troops on allied territory until war breaks out. I will test the latter though.
 
[OOC] At present we actually cannot actually declare war on Germany, and I'm not even sure if we're allowed to put our troops on allied territory until war breaks out. I will test the latter though.

I think you can, I remembering having the British army sitting in France for 3 years only to leave when the Germans began moving through Belgium
 
I've never built factories as Germany (you conquer, not build). Focus that IC instead into building your land/air forces

I place all my initial troops on the eastern fronts, then build up a sizeable force in the pre-war years in the west. Invade Poland as planned then shift the bulk of my force west, invade France as planned (hell, conquer Poland fast enough and get it done before the winter!) then reshift east to take on Russia while building up the Atlantik Wall.


I usually find that the bigger countries (Germany/USSR/USA) don't actually require building factories, and the others (such as UK, Japan) are the same if you play your cards right. Always remember what you want to do with your country, and that if you're going to be gaining factories through conquest, then focus that initial IC into boosting your military, not factories.
Bear in mind that i'm playing doomsday though dude, so games often go on long past 1945/1946 and as Germany you need that TC to truely conquer the world (played a game where I was invading Canada and nuking the US by the end) and as the USA to continue the fight against the USSR once the Axis is deafeated.
 
That's a fairly good point, though I would still expect to have the IC through conquest of Europe to take on the USA, and the USA starts out with what they need from the get-go. That said, I haven't installed Doomsday yet to test this as, well, I'm doing an AAR :)

And I think you've posted enough on this thread to be considered at least part of the Imperial Defence Council.
 
Willkommen Davo. You know, the Council n00bs have to get tea for the rest of us. :D

Good update.

I'm sorry to go out of my place right now, but I personally believe that this parliament should immediatly declare war, should Germany 'finish the job' in Czechoslavakia.

I would also recommend Wellingtons as our strategic bomber choice.

(What do we have as far as bombers are concerned.)

You've been listening to that noisy backbencher Mr. Churchill haven't you? ;)

Even if we were able to declare war, I think it would be best to wait a year or so until we have more tanks available, and the RAF has expanded further. Perhaps instead of rashly charging into war, we can 'appease' this Hitler chap until we are fit to fight!
 
That's a fairly good point, though I would still expect to have the IC through conquest of Europe to take on the USA, and the USA starts out with what they need from the get-go. That said, I haven't installed Doomsday yet to test this as, well, I'm doing an AAR :)

And I think you've posted enough on this thread to be considered at least part of the Imperial Defence Council.
Awesome:goodjob:
 
1939 Military Report

Compare to Last Years

Army

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An eight division increase in the last year might not seem like much, but sadly lists like this do not emphasise our 'quality over quantity' mindset. At least a third of our infantry divisions have been upgraded to 1939 standards in the past three months alone, and equipment for our specialised brigades is among the best in the world, and divisions are constantly being attached with them.

The same goes for our armoured divisions, which are only just coming into construction and will be deployed in 1939.

Navy

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I'm pleasantly surprised with the increase of our navy. Last year it appeared that the U.S.A. had the potential to overtake us in numbers, though the completion of the Third Fleet has apparently saved us that minor embarrassment. One thing that remains lacking is our destroyer fleet, which will be increased this coming year with three new fleets.

Throughout 1939 we also hope to develop a new generation of warships for the 1940's, retaining Britain's position as the top naval power in the world.

Air Force

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Simply not good enough. Our fighter and interceptor wings simply would not be able to cope with a war against Germany, possibly even Italy. We must boost our airforce significantly over the next two years if we want to be any sort of credible threat in the air.
 
Even if we were able to declare war, I think it would be best to wait a year or so until we have more tanks available, and the RAF has expanded further. Perhaps instead of rashly charging into war, we can 'appease' this Hitler chap until we are fit to fight!

Actually, a pretty good point. We can't expect to take on Germany's armoured forces with two AT brigades, can we?


And obviously, feel free to transfer yourself to any position of the British Cabinet/Armed Forces you desire.
 
Well, that report was very worrying.

What exactly is highest priority to build at current?
 
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