Screaming Orange Pumpkins - RR16B - It's tax day again ...

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Ok, this is the thread for team B of RR16. This is the team, btw:

lymond
LKendter
timmy827
vranasm
P.S pigswill
vanatteveldt

The variant is this one:
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In our greed for taxes we are not allowed to research techs -- we want to keep a 100% tax slider.

Our main beaker resource will probably be extorsion, but we're also  allowed to buy techs with our gold and broker with the techs we've  extorted or bought.

Initial worker techs is OK -- we need to get the economy started first.
You might recognize this from somewhere :D

The game settings are:
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And the starting position:
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This said, I wish you good luck and no peeking on the other team threads :D
 
reporting for duty... will throw some thoughts after

1) I get them
2) my daughter finishes playing with paint around ;-)
 
Checking in for team B.
 
Ok...Team B is a boring name. We should change it to something like "Screaming Orange Monkeys" or "Flying Ferrets of Freedom"

I'm fine with LK as leader. Should be fairly simple as this is still much more casual than SGOTM. I see the leader performing the following critical tasks:

1) Maintain ROTA
2) Make sure rules are followed or questioned
3) Keep all fiery Czechs in place
4) Make final decisions if a consensus on an issue is not achieved
5) Ensure overall completion of game

#3 is particularly critical :D
 
oh come'on...I am not THAT BAD person...

a little bit of trolling here and there but never unwarranted.

What are everyones thoughts about the settings?

A bit disappointed we can't run culture or EP slider.

Really not sure how we get to PH and Alpha which are probably critical for us.
 
In our greed for taxes we are not allowed to research techs -- we want to keep a 100% tax slider.

Our main beaker resource will probably be extortion, but we're also allowed to buy techs with our gold and broker with the techs we've extorted or bought.
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Did we rule on running specialists?
 
LKendter said:
Did we rule on running specialists?
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Still being discussed in the old thread

My initial take on the start is that we should settle on the Phants. Mining>BW obvious start. We might consider avoiding Fishing for a while unless seafood proves prominent across the map. May open some interesting bulb ops, if we're allowed to do so.

Getting that gold settled will be a priority.

Issue here is early-ish rush to get Writing/Alpha. Problem is that sometimes on this level it takes an AI forever to get to Alpha and it may not be one of the closer AIs.
 
The fact that Masonry is a "wonder" tech we can tech outright, then both TGW and Mids could be options. Nearby stone would be nice.
 
Until we know about specialists hard to make long-term plans.

We lose a fresh water lake (3F with lighthouse) by settling on elephants. I don't see what we gain.
 
LKendter said:
Until we know about specialists hard to make long-term plans.

We lose a fresh water lake (3F with lighthouse) by settling on elephants. I don't see what we gain.
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2H center tile and worker 3 turns sooner.

we don't lose that lake (which we can work after fishing anyway), we lose 2 health which can be issue depending on resources.

not sure which way... that start is uninspiring to say the least.

as always we will move the warrior first, but tough to see that it will help
 
LKendter said:
We lose a fresh water lake (3F with lighthouse) by settling on elephants. I don't see what we gain.
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No, we still keep the lake in the BFC. We can the early hammer bonus and possibly better tiles up north. I settle on phants all the time.

Rolo said we can come up with a team name. I've offered some suggestions, although we could use "Screaming Orange Pumpkins" as well. I'm fine with anything :lol:
 
I kinda like the start. Pretty good production, we have some food. 2 happies in view. Looks like we gain a hill of some sort by moving onto the phants. Not too worried about health with 2 health resources in view.
 
vranasm said:
hmm opened the save...what about a little traveling for the gold?

means settling T3 which is a big issue.
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Nope, would not even consider it with that land. Should be a priority for second city though.
 
lymond said:
I kinda like the start. Pretty good production, we have some food. 2 happies in view. Looks like we gain a hill of some sort by moving onto the phants. Not too worried about health with 2 health resources in view.
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yeah at least hapiness wouldn't be problem :)

I wouldn't delay fishing too much since it is on of the techs we can run slider 100%, but could be last tech run on 100% for sure.

We can't do any crazy bulb paths for Engineering anyway without access to teching Aesthetics
 
That is a good point...the fact that we can actually tech fishing. Yet, it is something I avoid often anyway if I can avoid it. Plus, it may be a tech we can extort early if needed. As would Aesths.

Engineering or Machinery could be bulb techs.

Good thing is Gilgs has very good starting techs. I inclined to go Pottery after BW, unless we need AH for a strat.
 
lymond said:
That is a good point...the fact that we can actually tech fishing. Yet, it is something I avoid often anyway if I can avoid it. Plus, it may be a tech we can extort early if needed. As would Aesths.

Engineering or Machinery could be bulb techs.

Good thing is Gilgs has very good starting techs. I inclined to go Pottery after BW, unless we need AH for a strat.
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the thing is that in a lot of starts fishing can be the only source of early commerce and we have there that 1 health you already calculate with when moving :)

the rules are not finished yet... so we have to wait it out ;-).

We even don't know when we get to writing, nor stealing aesth (for which you need alpha) and AI teching it etc etc...
that is so random that I wouldn't put any kind of strategy based on AI's having math, aesth, constr to steal and us having enough EP's and spies to steal it while getting 3 GS's and the last one even won't finish engineering most probably
 
Silly question: its a fractal map, can we get 64% land with non stop vulture rush (and massive casualties?).
 
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